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28 December 2007
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--- Log opened Fri Dec 28 00:00:49 2007
--- Day changed Fri Dec 28 2007
00:00 <****> sebdah: first try leaving ServerName as the IDN domain
00:01 <****> yango: I have it that way now
00:01 <****> and then ServerAlias as the LDN (or whatever it's called =)
00:02 <****> How can I get apache to log to 2 places @ once? Ex. Have all log info from all virtual hosts dump into one file, and also each host keep it's own relevant logs
00:02 <****> gogzmer: by using multiple Customlog directives.
00:02 <****> but i would rather advise another solution
00:02 <****> ok
00:02 <****> log all to one file, split it later
00:03 <****> better performance, less problems, same result
00:03 <****> ok, so to do that, just remove any logging directives from the virtual hosts I want lumped together?
00:03 <****> yango: gryzor, got it working now. It was Wordpress that made a translation into the IP. Thanks for your help guys!
00:05 <****> ah
00:05 <****> good then
00:08 <****> gryzor: both, error and custom log?
00:08 <****> i was talking of access log
00:12 <****> gryzor: what'd you use to slipt or evaluate?
00:13 <****> split-log
00:13 <****> split-log is 4http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/programs/other.html
00:20 <****> very cool... mod_fcgid seams to be spawning useless fastcgi daemons like a madman. :-/
00:20 <****> heh heh
00:21 <****> fajita, know what, I hate you... :P
00:21 <****> ViRUS: sorry...
00:22 <****> That evil bot keeps laughing at me. :-/
00:22 <****> fajita, wanna be friends again?
00:22 <****> wish i knew
00:24 <****> ah, after some time the obsolete fastcgi daemons went away. Probably zombies - wish I knew why.
00:25 <****> I'm trying to find mod_access. ubuntu doesn't list this in the package search. do I need to download the mod_accessibility module or the mod_access_dnsbl package from apache's list or is there an ubuntu package which has it?
00:25 <****> fajita: mod_access
00:25 <****> mod_access is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_access.html or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_access.html Called mod_authz_host in 2.1 and later
00:25 <****> zombie daemons? hehe
00:27 <****> oh, mod_authz_host. no wonder I couldn't find it
00:28 <****> proqesi, I'm using php via mod_fcgid - I first tried mod_fastcgi, but the mod_fcgid setup was somewhat easier so I went with ith - but now the php-cgi binary gets started more then actually neccesary
00:29 <****> proqesi, ab -c 100 -n 1000 generates about 10 php-cgi that aren't used afterwards. Thus when I execute this a second, a third and a forth time it adds another 10 php-cgi processes.
00:32 <****> ViRUS: how do you run them? With [f]cgi[d]?
00:33 <****> ViRUS: that's odd. shouldn't apache just start them up on its own?
00:33 <****> jMCg, FCGIWrapper /usr/bin/php5-cgi .php
00:34 <****> jMCg, I'm using mod_fcgid and mod_suexec with a customized suexec wrapper
00:35 <****> ViRUS: IIRC, you can define a treshold of how many services to be kept alive -- you might also have to cordinate it with the MPM
00:35 <****> right now the fcgid website is down and the documentation keeps a lot of space for wild guesses. :-/
00:36 <****> The night is young!
00:36 <****> i already had it that way, jMCg.
00:52 <****> mmmh... the original mod_fastcgi is weird. It seams that it identifies the command by it's path rather than an alias. So I basicly need a wrapper script for every single user... mod_fcgid comes with a more flexible approach. sighs.
00:53 <****> mod_wsgi rocks - too bad there ain't no such thing for PHP ... so I'm bound to fastcgi/fcgid
00:57 <****> how can i have my own, ns1.mydomain.com ns2.mydomain.com ?
00:57 <****> ViRUS: if it does php, it sucks
00:58 <****> anyone ?
00:59 <****> how to set that... permission of a downlaoded file is permission of user not user nobody ?
00:59 <****> niq, sure it does, but nonetheless I need it. :-/
01:00 <****> niq, mpm-itk with mod_php, suphp and cgi aren't really a good alternative. :-/
01:01 <****> standard cgi, perhaps?
01:06 <****> unbeatabl: run a server and put your IP address in the ns1.. etc fields
01:09 <****> unbeatabl: or follow the directions your hosting provider gave you.. basically copy and paste
01:10 <****> but its like chicken or the egg problem
01:11 <****> no, it isn't
01:11 <****> yes it is
01:11 <****> you aren't a domain registration company
01:11 <****> or at least I hope to God you're not trying to start one
01:12 <****> lets say i add both ns1 and ns2 to point to my IP, but ns1.mydomain.com won't resolve because mydomain.com itself does not have IP
01:12 <****> because that's not what you do
01:12 <****> so how?
01:12 <****> so how is this done
01:12 <****> so how?
01:12 <****> so how is this done
01:12 <****> ...
01:12 <****> lol
01:12 <****>_<
01:12 <****> so how?
01:13 <****> ns1 and ns2 point to a server's static IP address
01:13 <****> be nice to the bot
01:13 <****> static IP addresses always resolve
01:13 <****> or they point to your hosting provider's ns servers
01:14 <****> which is NOT your web site
01:14 <****> for example, ns1.yahoo.com
01:14 <****> or 4.233.10.8
01:14 <****> if you try to do that
01:15 <****> you get
01:15 <****> NameServer ns1.mydomain.com is not a valid Nameserver
01:15 <****> when you try to change it from domain registrar
01:15 <****> which is correct, because you don't know how to set up a valid nameserver
01:15 <****> yeah so which is why i asked, how do you setup a valid nameserver?
01:16 <****> is this all done from the domain registrar level?
02:00 <****> can I tie authentication to access, say, domain.tld/admin/blah... to the users on a MySQL database directly, and have that be what is authenticated against?
02:02 <****> mod_authn_dbd
02:02 <****> mod_authn_dbd is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authn_dbd.html and authenticates users against a SQL database such as MySQL or PostgreSQL
02:03 <****> anyone knows why the php fastcgi saems to die on regular basis when used with fcgid?
02:03 <****> thankyou
03:12 <****> Hi, I recently redid my web server's homepage (used frames to divide the page into 2 separate pages, a sitemap and the actual page), but now Google does not index the site properly. The Googlebot sees nothing on the page, so it can't follow the index page. What's wrong? I'm using Apache for the server.
03:14 <****> when I look at the cached version of the site through Google, I see nothing
03:15 <****> anyone?
03:17 <****> noone since it has nothing to do with apache
03:17 <****> but... http://www.smart-it-consulting.com/article.htm?node=166&page=130
03:18 <****> short gist... frames bad...
03:18 <****> frames ignored...
03:19 <****> i have a Google sitemap file, but it does not seem to do anything
03:20 <****> take it up with google
03:20 <****> this has nothing to do with apache
03:20 <****> is there a Google IRC channel?
03:21 <****> there is google groups
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