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30 December 2007
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04:23 <****> unless you are absolutely infallible
04:23 <****> (lawls)
04:23 <****> Absolut power gives Absolut hangover
04:23 <****> GraNNy-: word up
04:23 <****> lol
04:23 <****> werd
04:23 <****> although im drinking skyy tonight
04:23 <****> lemon drops <3
04:24 <****> but the problem is the US DOES have the power, they just don't use it
04:24 <****> i could solve the Israel Palestinian issue in 24 hours.
04:24 <****> I don't believe you can tell others what to do
04:24 <****> MrSmurfing: and I don't think the US has enough funds/people to be fighting a war in the middle east, china and northkorea.
04:24 <****> yes, because the world would getting pissy
04:24 <****> they should've invaded iraq and then left them to theirown problems
04:24 <****> TheDoc, the job of the military is to kill people and break things.
04:25 <****> we do not use the military as it should be used. a big hammer
04:25 <****> MrSmurfing: Iraq is a political hell hole at the moment.
04:25 <****> so we should not use it
04:25 <****> MrSmurfing: your opinions are so short sighted and elementary its hilarious
04:25 <****> unter: i've had enough vodka for awhile.
04:25 <****> go back to being a grunt worker, thanks.
04:25 <****> i drank too much thursday night... hooo boy
04:25 <****> "LOL JUST BLOW THEM UP LOLOLOL FUCK THEM"
04:25 * Bawbatos is sipping scotch
04:25 <****> Unter_: LOL!
04:25 <****> I like how american television makes people think that way
04:25 <****> Bawbatos: what kind?
04:25 <****> Unter_ no, it is not that simple.
04:25 <****> glenmorangie (sp?)
04:26 <****> invasion and military conquer is 1/4 of the process. restructuring is 3/4 of the process.
04:26 <****> the british and the soviets both failed at occupying others through colonialism.. what makes you think the US can do it correctly?
04:26 <****> yes, but no one bitched when we wiped dresden and all its people (women and kids) off the map. that is what changed. the military is blunt tool. we forget that and try to use it as a scaple
04:26 <****> drray, i do not think we can
04:27 <****> what the US doesn't seem to understand is that the whole world *doesn't* want to be a democracy
04:27 <****> well, and the US does not like the kind of things the other parts would vote for..
04:27 <****> democracy is the worst form of government there is...cept everyone we have tried
04:28 <****> that doesn't mean everyone else wants it
04:29 <****> we lack the will to kill so we should not fight. you cannot win i the middle east without slaughter
04:29 <****> nemith - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenmorangie - picked it up last time i was in london
04:29 <****> well, come back when you have a solution that does not involve genocide
04:29 <****> drray there is not one.
04:30 <****> Democracy is really a facade for a regime here in Singapore.
04:30 <****> It's horrible.
04:30 <****> i don't think anyone outside of singapore believes you have a democracy, TheDoc
04:30 <****> :)
04:31 <****> heh
04:31 <****> Oh, the joys!
04:31 <****> i lived in the middle east. my father is from Pakistan and my mother is american. so muslim and catholic. i was in gulf war 1. i have a very good understanding of the area and the people. there is no solution that does not involve a big sword.
04:31 <****> At least someone is seeing past the "democracy" here.
04:31 <****> as long as the money flows, noone cares about being free
04:31 <****> You see, the moment there's no rule, people will scramble for power.
04:32 <****> drray yes, pretty much. we sit at home and watch reality tv not understanding that our freedoms are being taking
04:32 <****> especially in a place as torn up as the middle east.
04:32 <****> bitch about how little we are paid and then go to walmart
04:32 <****> Bawbatos: You think that's bad mate? Try singapore.
04:32 * TheDoc shakes a fist at singapore.
04:33 <****> Singapore, is that where they chop people's fingers off for stealing?
04:33 * drray shakes a stumpy fist at singapore.
04:33 <****> TheDoc that really has nothing to do with it. it is about tribalism and 1000 year old feuds. heck the west is not immune from it. look at Yugoslavia. the min. Tito was dead they went back to killing each other over the same shit that started WWI
04:33 <****> i am okay with that. atleast in Singapore you know the score.
04:34 <****> Ah, true that.
04:34 <****> and no who to watch around your shit
04:34 <****> know
04:34 <****> You guys can pay off a car in 2 years.
04:34 <****> Gotta admit, you can say some person ought to have done such and such, but there really is no solution to the mess that the world is in... is there?
04:34 <****> We take 10 years to pay off a car, costing 5x the price due to taxes and 5x lesser the pay :P
04:34 <****> MrSmurfing: The world has to be saved on a smaller scale, not a global one
04:35 <****> TheDoc: you need to get a visa and move to the US of A
04:35 <****> our dim sum is decent
04:35 <****> isn't this the cisco room?
04:35 <****> our vodka is cheap
04:35 <****> TheDoc: that's not gonna happen
04:35 <****> pjunod: on even days. it's an odd day today.
04:35 <****> hum, give me control of the us military and about 30 days i can fix the world. however no one will like me
04:35 <****> GraNNy-: I should really.
04:35 <****> :|
04:36 <****> The president of the USA doesn't really have much control otherwise he'd have fixed a lot more than he has.
04:37 <****> or tried to
04:37 <****> fixed?
04:37 <****> s/control/brains
04:37 <****> lol
04:37 <****> oh. my bad
04:37 <****> hehe
04:37 <****> Ok then, broken
04:37 <****> Uhh... got involved in...
04:38 <****> mmmm dim sum
04:38 <****> pad thai here
04:39 <****> mmm pad kra pow
04:39 <****> tim: we need to go to the one dim sum place in memphis
04:39 <****> apparently i am hungry
04:39 <****> GraNNy-: Lobster King?
04:39 <****> the president could vote every pile of shit he gets on his desk. it would cause pain. but they it would require balls to do that.
04:39 <****> i eat there all the time
04:39 <****> tim: ya
04:39 <****> lets go next week
04:39 <****> ok
04:42 <****> im not going back to memphis for a while
04:42 <****> i refuse to pay a ticket there
04:42 <****> fuck those cops.
04:43 <****> GraNNy-: You're in TN?
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