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02 January 2008
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--- Log opened Wed Jan 02 00:00:05 2008
--- Day changed Wed Jan 02 2008
00:00 <****> government does pay well, but you 99% always have a job and the retirement benefits, depneding on if it's county/city/state/federal, can be top notch
00:00 <****> err DOESN'T pay well
00:00 <****> the US gubment is going to be totally screwed once the hippie generation retires
00:00 <****> but the benefits you get outweights your salary
00:01 <****> evil: depends on who you are :)
00:01 <****> they pay alright here for the market
00:01 <****> they have to publish everything
00:02 <****> evil: the lower tier jobs are better in benefits compared to corporations, but if you are more white collar, the benefits don't really do it for you
00:03 <****> ah..i see.
00:03 <****> so it's just like any corporation then
00:03 <****> the higher you go, the better you get
00:03 <****> e.g., mail man, police/fire officer are cool as blue collar jobs, but doing computer work for the gubment is not so great
00:03 <****> i get it.
00:04 <****> it really depends, the highest paid people here by far work for the navy
00:04 <****> most US corporations don't give good benefits for low paying jobs. government gives pretty good benefits across the board
00:04 <****> mplex: are they in the Navy or are they contractors?
00:04 <****> well contractors
00:05 <****> but even those that are civil servants do really well
00:05 <****> contractors/beltway bandits are not part of this equation :)
00:05 <****> mplex: my father was a GS-14 when he retired, and i made more than he did in 3 years of working
00:05 <****> OTOH, my father has the most awesome retirement benefits i've ever seen or will ever see
00:06 <****> what do the GS levels go up to
00:06 <****> unter: i believe the highest is 15, then it goes into speciality stuff
00:07 <****> http://www.opm.gov/oca/02tables/gs.htm
00:09 <****> mplex: trust me, the beltway bandits probably make double what the civil servants make
00:09 <****> at least
00:09 <****> Im sure
00:14 <****> what is a step?
00:15 <****> damn, I'd have to be a GS15 to even make my current salary.
00:15 <****> fuck that
00:15 <****> unter: exactly
00:15 <****> http://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/html/gs.asp
00:15 <****> there is new version
00:16 <****> with 08 i could do it in gs14
00:16 <****> but still thats a low ass salary cap
00:16 <****> GraNNy-: sorry, i was trying to find more punctuations to register
00:16 <****> i honestly thought you were about to paste/spam us
00:16 <****> heh
00:16 <****> ^ is one of my alt nicks
00:17 <****> i was wondering if there were many other punctuations freenode actually allows
00:17 <****> ah...i've seen spammers go to a character and then spam/flood a channel
00:17 <****> be careful :)
00:17 <****> ok :D
00:18 <****> heh
00:20 <****> ok thats enough :P
00:22 <****> GraNNy-: i think #openbsd are a bit more hostile :D
00:22 <****> 23:19 -!- You're now known as spaceinvader
00:22 <****> die
00:26 <****> lol
00:33 <****>
00:34 <****> o
00:35 <****>
00:35 <****> wifi interference is a bitch
00:37 <****> change channels
00:38 <****> there's nothing else on
00:38 <****> obodys biting on my lab on raigslist
00:38 <****> craigslist
00:39 <****> really?
00:39 <****> link?
00:39 <****> i mean the link to yout ad
00:39 <****> your*
00:50 <****> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/sys/525313965.html
00:50 <****> anyone know a good sip provier
00:50 <****> provider
00:50 <****> i want to get Asterisk@home setup at my house
00:52 <****> hermatize; you find one lemme know
00:53 <****> i cant
00:53 <****> do they not exist for the home user
00:53 <****> will vonage do it
00:54 <****> yup they do
00:54 <****> vonage and skype are the 2 I know
00:54 <****> but I'm sure there's more
00:54 <****> 149 a month
00:54 <****> eak
00:55 <****> skype does it?
00:55 <****> cant find the advertisement
00:55 <****> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+Residential
00:56 <****> http://www.callwithus.com/
00:56 <****> the one I like... pay as you go
00:59 <****> that one would work with asterisk
00:59 <****> well trixbox
00:59 <****> I like this callwithus.com
00:59 <****> 4.50/month
01:00 <****> zero free minutes
01:00 <****> and like 1.2c per minute
01:00 <****> pay for what you use
01:00 <****> some people in irc are just fucking dumbasses.
01:00 <****> I don't use a bazillion minutes a month
01:02 <****> Bawbatos: What brought you to that shocking revelation ?
01:06 <****> just asking a question in the iphone channel - the people were less then nice.
01:06 <****> what did you ask?
01:06 <****> if they new the type and size of the key apple was using to sign the dl's to the phone..
01:09 <****> is there a tcpdump like function in ios?
01:09 <****> debug ip packet detail dump ?
01:11 <****> can i limit that to one inbound ip?
01:12 <****> you can with an access list
01:12 <****> okay, thank you.
01:19 <****> the google logo is a network jack today, heh
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