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13 November 2007
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--- Log opened Tue Nov 13 15:02:37 2007
--- Log closed Tue Nov 13 15:02:49 2007
--- Log opened Tue Nov 13 15:14:52 2007
15:15 <****> well... never mind... kind of found the problem
15:15 <****> why the fsck wouldn't google co-ordinate with openmoko
15:15 <****> different business models for a start
15:16 <****> that sort of overrides any technical reasons
15:16 <****> open contra closed
15:16 <****> rwhitby: Go to bed, or celebrate your birthday. Congrats btw :)
15:17 <****> CM: yeah, good idea. night all.
15:17 <****> Night
15:18 <****> ScaredyCat: Of course I subscribe to your rss feed ;)
15:19 <****> I have a subscriber?!
15:19 <****> ScaredyCat: you should get mickey_away to add your blog to planet.openmoko
15:20 <****> mine is there, and your blog is way better than mine.
15:20 <****> ScaredyCat, I see "You need to a flashplayer enabled browser to view this YouTube video" <= -_-
15:20 <****> you just need flash
15:20 <****> josch: just underneath the open source rant :-)
15:20 <****> grrr...
15:20 <****> nicely ironic
15:20 <****> rwhitby: mmm... didn;t think it was good enough
15:21 <****> ScaredyCat: I think it is.
15:21 <****> it's a you tube video, what did you expect...
15:21 <****> josch: Why don't you install swfdec or gnash?
15:21 <****> although I did also seed the originals
15:21 <****> swfdec is the only one that I've gotten working
15:21 * ScaredyCat pokes cm
15:22 <****> CM, gnash works for youtube I know but I do not like proprietary formats conquering the web even when there is a more or less good free viewer
15:22 <****> josch: does that app use pygsmd =?
15:22 <****> josch: True, but it's hard to avoid..
15:23 <****> Sup3rkiddo, not yet
15:23 <****> ScaredyCat: you have no feeds link on your page
15:23 <****> oh :(
15:23 <****> (rss feed link for me to subscribe to)
15:23 <****> mmm...
15:23 * ScaredyCat goes looking
15:23 <****> rwhitby: Just click on the rss icon
15:23 <****> I mean in the ff bar
15:23 <****> CM, together with a friend I'm writing a youtube alternative consisting only on free software and open standards
15:23 <****> url bar
15:24 <****> CM, http://yolanda.mister-muffin.de/trac
15:24 <****> josch: ooh, nice. sounds tricky though.
15:24 <****> rwhitby: are you in firefox?
15:24 <****> I think IE7 handles that too
15:24 <****> CM, it could be ready but my UI designer takes a nap for a whole week now
15:24 <****> yes, but no RSS icon that I can see
15:24 <****> josch: I'd like to use that then :)
15:24 <****> ScaredyCat, I'm on foirefox
15:25 <****> josch: alas - the right time to launch it was 2004 or so.
15:25 <****> I wouldn't complain about people using flash if there is no alternative - because of that I'm writing one
15:25 <****> Weird. I have a black cat head, then the URL (http://blog.automated.it/) then an oragnge RSS icon to the right
15:25 <****> ok, *now* I see it :-)
15:25 <****> rwhitby: http://blog.automated.it/feed/atom/
15:25 <****> SpeedEvil, had not enough skill that time
15:26 <****> Much like ebay, google, ... unless you've got massive funding, or a secure niche, I don't see why new sites of that sort will take off.
15:26 <****> I read blogs in thunderbird - that's why I haven't used that icon before
15:26 <****> Ah, ok
15:26 <****> ScaredyCat: now you have 2 subscribers :-)
15:26 <****> the only component that is missing right now is a good looking upload dialog - erlehman should have done this a week ago but he is very lazy
15:27 <****> hurrah!
15:27 * CM lives in Google Reader
15:27 <****> although I think you just pushed the avarage age right up rwhitby ;)
15:27 <****> if anybody wants to make him finish his work, just join yolanda@conference.mister-muffin.de jabber multi user chat
15:27 <****> Hehe
15:28 <****> :-/ erlehmann just this moment went offline - maybe he read what I was writing about him here :-D
15:29 <****> ScaredyCat: put openwrt on your Fon
15:29 <****> it's a + unit, not the standard one...
15:29 <****> from what I've read so far it needs signed images
15:30 <****> nbd would know
15:30 * ScaredyCat probs nbd
15:30 <****> prods even
15:31 <****> ScaredyCat: No probing in here!
15:31 <****> with a serial console it's easy to install, but the + one needs some patches
15:31 <****> :P
15:31 <****> i'll try to integrate those in the next few days
15:31 <****> sweet
15:33 <****> hm okayn my neo is stil not starting up
15:34 <****> anything that would cause it not to power up properly with a proper battery, or that would prevent the battery to charge?
15:34 <****> hi all. I read that qtopia has a Media Player
15:34 <****> Die_, did you try a charged nokia battery?
15:34 <****> but I don't find it in the qtopia neo1973 image
15:34 <****> Die_, just ask around BL-5C batteries are very common
15:35 <****> it charges slowly if the battery was really flat...
15:35 <****> ScaredyCat, he tried this for a few days as I understood it
15:35 <****> iirc @ 50ma if you have the bug (rather than 100ma)
15:35 <****> oh
15:35 <****> josch: i couldn't yet get my hands on a nokia battery
15:35 <****> shit
15:35 <****> it should charge in that time
15:36 <****> so how many days should i keep it plugged to be sure it's charged?
15:36 <****> Die_: I don;t think it will charge a nokia battery...
15:36 <****> you'll need to use a nokia phone or charger
15:36 <****> for the nokia battery
15:37 <****> Die_: I noticed your trouble earlier, that you had taken the batter yout, then put back in. I've had to do that once, and that was out with the battery for maybe 5 minuters, then plug in and charging for 1h was enough to get into uboot
15:37 <****> Tyrael: you have to build the media player yourself, the helix license doesn't allow distribution - unless you are trolltech
15:39 <****> exactly what does being trolltech mean?
15:40 <****> ScaredyCat: Thanks. Damn helix license...
15:40 <****> ljp: is trying to make it work without helix
15:41 <****> cool
15:41 <****> philips released a NAS device
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