#openmoko
14 November 2007
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--- Log opened Wed Nov 14 00:00:03 2007
--- Day changed Wed Nov 14 2007
00:00 <****> abraxa_: Admit it's funny
00:00 <****> abraxa_: I'll fall asleep with a grin.. Hehe.. What a name of a homepage
00:00 <****> CM: yeah, I just wish it were a little easier for people to tell that it's *not* me
00:00 <****> CM: Good night :)
00:01 <****> abraxa_: Maybe you should stop wearing those leather outfits.. :D
00:01 * CM hears a STFU
00:01 <****> abraxa_: Good night too (And thanks for being a good sport!)
00:01 <****> Any good idea to contact rwhitby without bothering him?
00:02 <****> benni_: What does your line 421 in the Makefile look like?
00:02 <****> benni_, well waiting for him to wake up would probably bother him less
00:02 <****> hi. i read that openmoko has been installed on a motorola a780. was that just proof of concept or is it kind of working?
00:02 <****> CM: I'm just pretending. I'll still get you in your sleep.
00:02 <****> abraxa_: :P
00:03 <****> line 421: ( cd build/qemu && openmoko/flash.sh ../tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973 )
00:03 <****> the_mgt: i think the answer is openmoko on any device is for the moment a proof of concept
00:03 <****> josch: what timezone does he live in? ^^
00:03 <****> the_mgt: You might want to talk to any of the OpenEZX people (e.g. koen)
00:03 <****> balrog-kun: thought so
00:03 <****> benni_: Hmm.. Looks ok. In some old ones it said fic-gta01 there
00:03 <****> benni_, I somewhere hear rwhitby comes from australia?
00:03 <****> He does
00:03 <****> benni_: Just ping him here
00:04 <****> that explains a lot :-D
00:04 <****> benni_: He's a really helpful and nice guy :)
00:04 <****> benni_, for CM everyone is a nice guy ^^
00:04 <****> sooooo could someone please tell me my password I used to register here some years ago ^^
00:04 <****> I suspect he's busy playing with Android now though..
00:04 <****> I saw this on his homepage, yes
00:05 <****> josch: Hmm..
00:05 <****> Good night though
00:05 * CM turns off screen and speakers
00:05 <****> g'night CM
00:07 <****> good night, CM, and thanks again!
00:10 <****> g'night @ all
00:10 * josch gives his neo a good night kiss and goes to bed
00:12 <****> lol josch... good night
00:14 * rwhitby is back
00:14 <****> nelson: oh, yeah - that was it - the packet driver which I used for the CF ethernet card.
00:15 * rwhitby has memory problems now he's 40
00:16 <****> rwhitby: Did you see the makefile problems that were mentioned?
00:17 <****> abraxa_: yes, but I didn't see a full pastebin of the problem
00:17 <****> rwhitby: Hi there... I'm the guy with the problem... what do you want to see?
00:18 <****> can you pastebin a log of "make update-makefile ; make setup update all"
00:20 <****> torpor: you're looking for devirgination help?
00:22 <****> someone here use BT headset or headphones with linux?
00:23 <****> rwhitby: Is "make setup update all" the thing wich takes 5h and 18gb? For the beginning, I just wanted to try some make qemu... ;-)
00:24 <****> bennigraf: ok, just "make update-openmoko qemu" then
00:24 <****> (to make sure you have the latest openmoko svn file)
00:24 <****> files)
00:28 <****> rwhitby: http://celpaste.morb-design.com/pastebin.php?show=m3c7fa6fd
00:29 <****> bennigraf: can you pastebin openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/env ?
00:30 <****> http://celpaste.morb-design.com/pastebin.php?show=m2b199ba3
00:31 <****> Shall I change the last line?
00:32 <****> I haven't seen that last line before - did you add it, or has the env file been updated by the OM folks?
00:32 <****> I didn't change anything manually
00:32 <****> can you pastebin the download.sh script?
00:33 <****> http://celpaste.morb-design.com/pastebin.php?show=m61619cac
00:34 <****> Yesterday evening I tryed the same thing and it failed with a 404, but because the whole buildhost.openmoko.org/OM2007.2 got rebuilt, maybe that has anything to do with this?
00:37 <****> bennigraf: looks like OM have rebuilt buildhost's deploy dir, and have forgotten to put uboot there.
00:37 <****> uboot is..?
00:37 <****> so I'm afraid you're out of luck until mickey|dinner fixes the snapshot area to include a uboot image, and then fixes the env file to point to neo1973 area for dev_download_dir too.
00:37 <****> uboot is the bootloader.
00:37 <****> ah, okay
00:38 <****> Is there a way to give them a hint? ^^
00:38 * balrog-kun updated env and download.sh to match recent buildhost layout
00:38 <****> if it changed again, then it's a bit annoying :)
00:39 <****> oh yes, it did..
00:39 * balrog-kun wish they would settle with one logical directory layout
00:40 <****> bennigraf: balrog-kun will handle it - just wait till he says the files have been updated in svn, then do make update-openmoko again.
00:41 <****> okay, so I'm putting myself thrustfully in balrog-kuns hands ;-)
00:41 <****> Thanks alot for your help, rwhitby!
00:41 <****> for a change, i can't find *any* u-boot snpashots anywhere on the buildhost now...
00:42 * mwester muses that this might be a *good* thing.
00:42 <****> mwester: makes it hard to run qemu though ...
00:42 <****> or to update your phone likewise
00:43 <****> the reasons to run a recent u-boot on the Neo and in qemu are the same
00:43 <****> Ah, that's true. But it might also prevent a few bricks...
00:43 <****> the difference is that qemu doesn't have a working one to start with :-)
00:44 <****> The last u-boot I tried refused to boot when disconnected from its USB cable.
00:45 <****> mickeyl opened a bug on it; it wasn't fixed as of a short time ago.
00:45 <****> we can take the one from the july release, that's what qemu did for a couple of months but i changed it recently because i thought it misses the point
00:45 * mwester goes off to see if he can find that bug number
00:46 * balrog-kun just hopes the layout doesn't change again in a couple days
00:47 <****> http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=887
00:48 <****> hi, sorry, my X crashed...
00:49 <****> How are the chances of getting a useable uboot for qemu anytime soon, then?
00:49 <****> benni: SCREEN + irssi + your favourite terminal emulator... safe from X deaths :)
00:49 <****> hehe
00:50 <****> but i like those wobbly windows... ^^
00:50 <****> *my* terminal is still wibbly :)
00:51 <****> oh, now I get it... ^^
00:52 <****> benni: http://moko.mwester.net/u-boot-gta01bv4-1.2.0+git8993e54b6f397973794f3d6f47d3b3c0c98dd4f6+svn20070819-r0.bin
00:52 <****> That's the one I flashed finally, which has been working just fine for a long time. (that's from buildhost, BTW)
00:53 <****> will the neo ever be able to compete with the battery specs of this device?
00:53 <****> http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_cruise.htm
00:53 <****> I assume I have to put it into images/openmoko, am I right?
00:54 <****> Oh, I don't know about how to make it work with qemu. Only the real device, I'm afraid.
00:54 <****> basically copy it into your openmoko/ directory in qemu source tree and run the rest of the scripts i think
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