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29 December 2007
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12:38 <****> SpeedEvil: exactly
12:38 <****> After: $GPGGA,141054.00,5611.888041,N,00310.425829,W,1,10,0.5,147.0,M,0.188001,M,0.0100
12:38 <****> I dont get that far. it gives me A1.......................................... not A3 as for after the fix
12:39 <****> I mean the raw NMEA output. And are you outdoors?
12:39 <****> SpeedEvil: no, i down in my basement :-)
12:39 <****> i have also tested outdoor, but havent been out for long enough i guess. (5 min)
12:40 <****> 5 min should be enough for a fix.
12:41 <****> There are several people who apparently have non-working GPSs
12:41 <****> ok, so there might be some hardware stuff then
12:41 <****> possibly, yes
12:42 <****> mine is new though, should work
12:43 <****> I should have kept notes on who was having problems.
12:46 * Sup3rkiddo raises his hands
12:46 <****> for a non working gps
12:49 <****> Sup3rkiddo: that sucks
12:49 <****> is the gps silent or only doesn't ever get a fix?
12:50 <****> balrog-kun, yup still at A1.....mostly give up after 10 minutes...running gllin/gllin just works right?
12:51 <****> it is supposed to, i hear it needs more time for the first fix on a given gps device
12:52 <****> oh!...didnt know that...so i will just keep it running for a while
12:52 <****> balrog-kun: Ok, so if i leave it outside for an hou or so it might get the fix?
12:52 <****> have to wait until it stops raining thoug
12:52 <****> 5 min should be plenbty
12:52 <****> goxboxlive: i'd try that
12:53 <****> but 1h if it doesn't work - something's broken
12:53 <****> =/
12:53 <****> But since it gets A1 whyshouldnt it get the fix
12:53 <****> thats weird
12:53 <****> well, i heard 5 min wasn't enough for a couple of people
12:53 <****> (for the *first* fix only)
12:54 <****> ok, i'll test
12:54 <****> A1?
12:55 <****> Yes the status before the fix
12:55 <****> don't know
12:55 <****> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-November/011916.html
13:00 <****> Ok, left it outside, connected my external antenna to it.
13:00 <****> hi all
13:01 <****> does anyone know if openmoko project will be on the list of google summer porject's ?
13:02 * balrog-kun hopes it's not stolen while it's outside :)
13:02 <****> :-) i guess it woudnt
13:11 <****> goxboxlive, external antenna?
13:14 <****> Sup3rkiddo: yes i bought one for another device, and the plug fint the neo antenna plug. DOnt know if it wroks, but it still gets A1 signals
13:15 <****> goxboxlive, hmm...ok...getting A1 here as well, still waiting for the fix, although i am indoors
13:16 <****> i'll go out and check now
13:17 <****> hey the device was gone :-/
13:17 <****> nope, still no fix
14:44 <****> Yes, i got a A3, so i have a fix then.
15:03 <****> goxboxlive: cool
15:03 <****> it should start working normally after that
15:08 <****> i have the gps working :-) in qtopia using roadmap
15:28 <****> Hello, I'm toying with openmoko (and a palm T5), and I wonder which is the correct way to manage resolution other than 480x640 ? I should make a specific theme for gtk ?
15:50 <****> Will the GTA02 have powered USB? The Neo1973 wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973) says so, but the IPhone vs GTA02 wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone) says it will be unpowered.
15:51 <****> One of them have to be fixed, but I don't know which one is wrong.
15:51 <****> it will, the comparison is out of date
15:52 <****> or at least I haven't seen them reneg on the powered usb, while I have seen an official person say it will be so
15:52 <****> I'll fix the comparison
17:10 <****> oops, both of my batteries seem to be discharges completely..now the neo doesnt boot up...should i plug it into my computer and wait?
17:38 <****> hi
17:39 <****> Sup3rkiddo: yes, just wait for an hour or so ...
17:40 <****> kinneh, yup, saw that in the wiki..just now..danke
17:40 <****> np
18:17 <****> hmm the external antenna i bought for another gps works great with the Neo
18:19 <****> why shouldn't it?
18:20 <****> goxboxlive, got a fix?
18:20 <****> thomasg_: because it dont with tree other gps devices i have
18:21 <****> Sup3rkiddo: yes, it works great now
18:21 <****> goxboxlive, how long did it take?..
18:21 <****> goxboxlive: weird
18:21 <****> I will make a Qtopia image with the correct setup so other can try too
18:21 <****> thomasg_: no, it's not. The connector has to fit
18:22 <****> yes, of course. if it's mmcx it fits
18:22 <****> yes, and my A780 and two other BT gps's doesnt have that connector. But luckely Neo had it
18:23 <****> remember about the gllin EULA though
18:23 <****> hm, all the gps mice I know and my tomtom have the mmcx-connector
18:23 <****> balrog-kun: of course
18:23 <****> ok
18:32 <****> Sup3rkiddo: I actually dont know, because i tried several places in my house, and when it pointed to north it gave me a fix. But it where in that position at least for an 1/2 hour.
18:33 <****> goxboxlive, oh..and it gets fixes sooner after that "first" fix?
18:34 <****> Sup3rkiddo: yes, and especially with my external antenna. I havent manage to get a fix inside without the external
18:35 <****> goxboxlive, hmm....have fun hackz0ring....i wonder when i will get my first fix
18:35 <****> thx :-)
19:17 <****> anybody at the congress experienced with debricking?
19:26 <****> anyone know more about getting openmoko to run on a treo?
19:54 <****> preppy, probably depends on the model, but michael sheldon has some info on getting it on th 650
19:55 <****> I'm new to this thing i got Opie working
19:55 <****> but id like to experiment with openMoko
19:55 <****> seems like a better thing
19:55 <****> looks like someone has it on the 680 as well
19:56 <****> I contacted Michael Sheldon about it, but he seems to be inactive
19:57 <****> unfortunately, i don't know a whole lot about treo's as I don't have one
19:57 <****> opie is for sure much faster
19:57 <****> still has a lack of a dialer application though
19:58 <****> and phone calls won't work on t650 anyway
19:58 <****> true
19:58 <****> BobOfDoom was working on adapting gsmd to the t650 modem and he had some success but no usable phonecalls yet
19:59 <****> oh really thats interesting
19:59 <****> i think its very much possible
20:00 <****> i don't think he'll continue hacking gsmd because qtopia released their full sources a couple of months ago,
20:00 <****> and it turns out the modem in greenphone is pretty much identical to that in t650
20:00 <****> oh really
20:00 <****> so its possible to get qtopia running on a treo
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