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01 October 2007
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00:57 <****> dondelelcaro well it makes that up by th horrible slow death it produces
00:57 <****> _abc_: That script is not 11MB
00:57 <****> _abc_: You aren't very bright are you?
00:57 <****> _abc_: That script is part of "perl-5.8.1.tar.gz"
00:58 <****> sauvin, yeah.. but, it was worth asking...
00:58 <****> If you're asking how a Perl package could be useful, well...
00:58 <****> jagerman ok, I should have it then ?!
00:58 <****> _abc_: Type 'cpan' at your shell and see what happens.
00:58 <****> I HATE YOU.
00:58 <****> jagerman I fail to undrestand why they call a full perl distro a 'package'.
00:58 <****> quit work tiem
00:59 <****> What would you call it?
00:59 <****> jagerman a perl distribution
01:00 <****> jagerman it's ok I got v1.9102 manually and it works now
01:00 <****> We're doomed.
01:00 <****> buu: Better start loving Jesus. You have a lot to make up for.
01:00 <****> jagerman by 'package' I meant as a perl pam not a package package. and since when does one upgrade perl proper from CPAN ?!
01:01 <****> perl pam?
01:01 <****> the latest in cooking sprays
01:01 <****> jagerman: He likes it that way.
01:01 <****> .pm not pam. I am confused by now. whew
01:01 <****> If Jesus died for my sins, doesn't that mean he paid the price for all the sinning I ever do? And doesn't that mean that I should feel perfectly free to do all the sinning I like?
01:02 <****> do I have to run cpan as root or is there some way to set up a group for that
01:02 <****> It's just the Original Sin concept.
01:02 <****> wow first viral car marketing now theology
01:03 * sauvin uses POSIX::isprint to decide on the basis of the title field that a record is valid or not
01:03 <****> christianity does not lend itself well to logical attack, nor does any mass religion really (the conflicting accounts of the birth of Gautama Buddha, for example)
01:03 <****> jagerman: I think he died for the sin you automatically get for being born.
01:03 <****> jagerman: So you start out with a blank slate. Or something.
01:03 <****> buu, Yes.
01:04 <****> buu: Oh
01:04 <****> no, you still have to repent for original sin
01:04 <****> Shucks.
01:04 <****> and for some reason you have to KEEP repenting for it...
01:04 <****> preaction: So why did jesus off himself?
01:04 <****> How is being born a sin?
01:04 <****> jagerman: Duh.
01:04 <****> sauvin, regex /[[:print:]]/ gives you that without posix
01:04 <****> jagerman: Because your parents were a bit mean or something.
01:04 <****> at what point did #perl become #church?
01:04 <****> jagerman in some cases I know being born is a definite sin
01:04 <****> idiotben, didn't you get the memo?
01:05 <****> guess not
01:05 <****> idiotben, Since the FAQ says that "almost everything" is on-topic in #perl.
01:05 <****> Anno-_, I'd forgotten that. Is it faster?
01:05 <****> no worries man, just making idle conversation
01:05 <****> anyway I can see tor is banned. hehehe. contrast this with #bash which does not ban tor and makes all users ops
01:05 <****> probably, depending on how it's used
01:06 <****> _abc_: Yeah.. and they end up with people like you.
01:07 <****> I heart buu.
01:09 <****> preaction, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Sin#Original_sin_in_mainstream_Protestantism
01:09 <****> apeiron's url is at http://xrl.us/6xh4
01:09 <****> shorten, WTF
01:09 <****> apeiron: Couldn't shorten URI.
01:09 <****> hahaha
01:09 <****> lulz
01:10 <****> Another long URL... http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-0002277-4954812?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=king+james+bible&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go
01:10 <****> apeiron's url is at http://xrl.us/6xh6
01:10 <****> Ohhh, I see, it's inheriting Adam's sin
01:10 <****> Ah.
01:10 <****> shorten: Welcome back
01:10 <****> jagerman: Couldn't shorten URI.
01:10 <****> buubot: FOAD
01:11 <****> jagerman, basically. what isn't clear is why I have to atone for it, and why I have to continue to feel sorry for it
01:11 <****> is a shorter version
01:11 <****> Hrm... my isprint idea isn't going to work out too well, looks like.
01:12 <****> thrig, Cool. But I was trying to see if shorten targets only larger URLs.
01:12 <****> sauvin: Maybe try to see if it's valid utf-8 first
01:12 <****> apeiron: Shorten got 'rate limited' to excessively long uris the other day.
01:12 <****> buu, Aha.
01:13 <****> Jagerman, the files have legitimate English data field headers - the data themselves are all kinds of crazy different languages.
01:13 <****> Where I'm running into trouble now is falsely excluding records from European countries.
01:13 <****> Who designed this shitty system?
01:13 <****> gonna hafta do a character-by-character signal/noise ratio calculation, I guess.
01:13 <****> "Let's take any random character sets as input without recording what they are"
01:14 <****> jagerman: That's how I roll.
01:14 <****> roll?
01:14 <****> Are you using D&D terms?
01:14 <****> Don't forget to prepend the "rock and" :D
01:15 <****> jagerman: No, I'm using gangster terms.
01:15 <****> As in, "Rollin' with ma homies"
01:15 <****> I suspect it's a reference to car wheels.
01:15 <****> Shouldn't it have been "Dat's" then?
01:15 <****> my homies rolled a natural 20, and beat up your homies
01:15 <****> thrig++
01:16 <****> thrig: Hot.
01:16 <****> nerdy gangsters ?
01:16 <****> Sure.
01:17 <****> You've never roleplayed a gang war?
01:17 <****> You have?
01:17 <****> No =[
01:19 <****> Hrm.
01:20 <****> I need to create a system that load balances between two or more download locations.. do I do it with a domain name that randomly resolves or with a url..
01:20 <****> At the time I generate the URL that is.
01:21 <****> If you can make a better than random determination of the URL when you generate it (e.g. by considering the current load on each server) that's probably the better approach
01:22 <****> Yeah..
01:22 <****> not something like perlbal?
01:22 <****> And the URL would allow for adding systems that wouldn't let me merely resolve the domain name.
01:22 <****> Eg systems where the files are in different locations.
01:24 <****> And would let you add/remove servers without resulting in timeouts
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