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04 October 2007
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02:55 <****> (duuu?)
02:55 <****> :P
02:56 <****> yay, it's been ported to FBSD
02:56 <****> Huzzah.
02:57 <****> and there was much rejoicing
02:57 * zbrown ponders if FBSD runs on G4's
02:58 <****> I think the FreeBSD PowerPC port is still fairly rudimentary.
02:58 <****> At least it was when I last checked.
02:58 <****> it appears so
02:58 <****> {{sigh}}
02:59 <****> eh well, I need OS X for a couple of niceties anyway
02:59 <****> I wish I had my desktop from home, then I could use it with BSD
03:00 <****> Ooh, a G4. <3
03:00 <****> bah.
03:00 <****> i386 only.
03:00 * reflexive hopes he gets a chance to pounce on all the old G4s his school's bound to chuck before graduation.
03:01 * apeiron spits.
03:01 <****> dwu: ;) I picked up a dual-G4 powermac w/ 1.25 gigs of ram off ebay for 200 bucks by accident a couple months ago
03:01 <****> dwu: Oh, nice.
03:01 <****> reflexive: ?
03:01 <****> zbrown: oooo.
03:01 <****> Erm.
03:01 * apeiron considers a course in hands-on compiler design and implementation.
03:01 <****> zbrown, even. Mea culpa.
03:01 <****> ah :)
03:02 <****> apeiron: What's the alternative, managing compiler design? :)
03:02 <****> reflexive: :)
03:02 <****> Hmmm this little g3 iBook needs an OS that is less graphic intensive that has a working wireless driver :-|
03:02 <****> zbrown: OpenBSD would probably do it.
03:02 <****> Or Net, perhaps.
03:03 <****> reflexive: hmmm this is true
03:03 <****> I might throw those on it
03:03 <****> I really hate the OpenBSSD install process so I'll probably default to NetBSD first
03:03 <****> 've seen Debian run on iBooks, unless you're a Linuxhater, which is perfectly reasonable, like apeiron :)
03:04 <****> dwu: I'm not a linux hater, but I've yet to find a linux distro that supported the wireless card
03:04 <****> which is important
03:04 <****> Ah!
03:04 <****> Fair 'nuff.
03:04 <****> Don't those old AirPort cards just use PRISM chipsets?
03:04 <****> Everything supports those.
03:06 <****> hmm I dunno, but I was having issues when I threw debian on here
03:06 <****> not to mention for some reason linux to olonger to boot than OS X did :-|
03:06 <****> Odd.
03:06 <****> "having issues" ne "not work" ;) but I understand :)
03:07 <****> zbrown: I take it the G3s won't even run Tiger acceptably, will they :|
03:07 <****> dwu: Well the G3 is running it just fine and really it doesn't boot _that_ slowly
03:07 <****> they run it fine
03:07 <****> its more the fact that if you get a lot going, it tends to bog down
03:07 <****> Meh, 's got Tiget, I wouldn't complain ;)
03:07 <****> er, tiger.
03:08 <****> of course, like with any OS, lots of RAM is good
03:08 <****> Well, it's possible to bog down any machine... more RAM!
03:08 <****> Granted i am asking a lot from a 600mhz g3 with 384 mb of ram but I'm greedy
03:08 <****> cheapest speed improvement you can have
03:08 <****> Yeah.
03:08 <****> Ya, this laptop needs more ram and a new battery
03:08 <****> we had run it on a 500Mhz G3 with 642 or something MB RAM
03:08 <****> but I don't have 150 bucks to spedn on the two
03:09 <****> just fine
03:09 <****> zbrown: Just get the RAM first, then, it'll surely be worth it anyways :)
03:09 <****> yup
03:09 <****> Adding RAM pretty quickly hits a diminishing marginal return
03:09 <****> dwu: I'm a poor college student, want to help fund me :(
03:10 <****> zbrown: Let's be poor college students together!
03:10 <****> Can anyone explain why this $x =~ s/,+/,/; doesn't crush multiple commas into a single comma?
03:10 <****> reflexive: hurray!
03:10 <****> I'm a poor college student, too.
03:10 <****> bloopletech: lack of /g ?
03:10 <****> thanks, ill try
03:10 <****> thrig: should still work the first time, no?
03:10 <****> yes
03:11 <****> I recommend a minimum 1GB of RAM for people these days, and prefer 2GB
03:11 <****> dduncan: hah
03:11 <****> zbrown: So 'm I, darlin'. :)
03:11 <****> dduncan: I rarely find myself limited by the 640MB I have on my notebook.
03:11 <****> thrig: Works now, thanks!!!
03:11 <****> dduncan: I'm running on 256. My biggest system has 512..
03:11 <****> Of course, I'm not running Windows
03:11 <****> eg, if you're getting a new machine, custom it with 2GB
03:11 <****> dduncan: never bothers me.
03:11 <****> jagerman: *highfive*
03:11 <****> unless you have more than 2 ram slots, then you can go more ...
03:11 <****> afaik, 1GB cards are in the sweet spot of large but not expensive
03:12 <****> dwu: from texas?
03:12 <****> 640MB RAM should be enough for anybody!
03:12 <****> zbrown: Singapore, actually, but good try :)
03:12 <****> 2GB cards are like 4x the price, 512MB cards are maybe 3/4 the price
03:12 <****> dwu: oh ok, been there, its nice :)
03:12 <****> zbrown: Uh, to visit, not to stay :)
03:12 <****> jagerman: 640kb :P
03:12 <****> zbrown: But I guess it would be nice to visit. :)
03:12 <****> dwu: exactly ;)
03:13 <****> Werdna: My notebook has 640MB
03:13 <****> I know, I'm just being stupid
03:13 <****> Werdna: But the parallel to billy was intended
03:13 <****> zbrown: :)
03:14 <****> Sorry
03:14 <****> s/billy/William H. Gates, III/
03:15 * zbrown wishes he had more time to hack around in perl & c instead of having to write non-recursive algorithsm for tree-walking :(
03:16 <****> zbrown, non-recursive algorithm for tree-walking? is it a limited tree?
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