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04 October 2007
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03:16 <****> that doesn't sound Possible
03:16 <****> preaction_: You can do it with an explicit stack + loop.
03:16 <****> preaction_: you can do it if you have use an external data structure and move about
03:16 <****> buu: thats actually what I used
03:16 <****> oh ew
03:16 <****> though I just looked at my pseudocode and I definitely missed a step
03:17 <****> I only get the right children of all sub trees
03:18 <****> zbrown: Is this for some sort of collage assignment, I can't see why else you would have to do it.
03:19 <****> Well, zbrown -is- a student...
03:20 <****> of life?
03:20 <****> college, I believe ;)
03:20 * platypus didn't have that context.
03:20 <****> And hi, Khisanth :)
03:20 <****> platypus: Never implied you should have had :)
03:20 <****> platypus: yup, its an algorithms & data structures class
03:21 <****> "it's" :)
03:21 <****> we get about 30 goofy ass problems like these per week that end up in about 20 legal pad sheets front&back of pseudo code and less-than-bullet-proof proofs
03:21 <****> dwu: heh, I never was much for grammar :)
03:22 <****> zbrown: 's not the point :) just saying :)
03:22 <****> you write code on paper?
03:22 <****> ricer paper, for speed
03:22 <****> My TA students have to do that on occassion.
03:22 <****> heh
03:23 <****> I have to hand in a printed copy of my 1200 line java assignment tomorrow, in addition to sending the source code.
03:23 <****> In a regex if you want to match only an alpha and not an alphanumeric, do you have to use the [A-z] notation?
03:23 <****> there's no \w or \D ?
03:24 <****> jagerman: does your school have various buildings named after paper manufacturers?
03:24 <****> jagerman: too late to enscribe it onto clay tablets, I guess
03:24 <****> flight16: There is [[:alpha:]]
03:24 <****> Khisanth, we had the same policy.
03:24 <****> Where I went.
03:24 <****> eval: 'foo' =~ /\w/;
03:24 <****> apeiron: 1
03:24 <****> thrig: Yeah, plus I have the gym for my workout, no need to lug stone tablets around.
03:25 <****> what the hell would that accomplish except providing a bit of exercise for the professors?
03:25 <****> If you print double sided, 2 pages per sheet, it becomes reasonable...
03:25 <****> Khisanth, you can write comments on the assignment and hand it back.
03:25 <****> You can circle things and draw arrows.
03:25 <****> You can do that with the source files too. :)
03:25 <****> flight16: It was already 6.5pt, I think two pages per sheet would be illegible.
03:25 <****> What apeiron said.
03:25 <****> Well, not the point and drool stuff.
03:26 <****> sup fellow hackers...
03:26 <****> You -can-, if you want, but why would you need to circle and doodle?
03:26 <****> flight16: That is a bit nicer--for correcting labs, I usually embed comments into the code and sent it back to them.
03:26 <****> I think the profs get a kickback from the printer company
03:26 <****> For grading purposes?
03:26 <****> circling and doodling is for whimps...
03:26 <****> But being able to circle and hand something back *is* nicer.
03:26 <****> jagerman, I see. I guess that could work too.
03:26 <****> I like paper copies...
03:26 <****> sup apeiron
03:26 <****> ispy_, Greetings!
03:26 <****> I'd rather read code on a screen with comments, ta ;) TETO ;)
03:27 <****> perlbot, TETO?
03:27 <****> dwu: I sometimes wonder, though, if it's really worth the effort.
03:27 <****> 'to each their own"
03:27 <****> dwu, ENOTINPERLBOT
03:27 <****> dwu: I mean, I think most of them don't even look at it.
03:27 <****> jagerman: Yeah, so why waste more ink circling and doodling? :)
03:28 <****> Well, if it got handed back in class, they might think it's more interesting than listening to the professor. :)
03:28 <****> apeiron: DIE ;)
03:28 <****> eval { apeiron ; } ;
03:28 <****> apeiron: apeiron
03:28 <****> buubot, ty
03:28 <****> Next year I'll get to scribble all over introductory Economics students' assignments :)
03:29 <****> jagerman: My place had print-out-source things as well, sort of lame really since my lecturer would feedback individually. Why bother? Just annotate with // :) (java class)
03:29 <****> "You can't just pick random terms from the glossary and hope that they'll get you marks!"
03:30 <****> You -can-, actually, it doesn't mean they -will- get you marks :)
03:30 <****> s/!/, retardo!/
03:30 <****> dwu: Well, I usually end up fixing the students' code in the process of trying to figure out what they did wrong, so I just comment my changes and decribe what the way they did it doesn't work
03:30 <****> jagerman: See, I could've liked that way of doing it.
03:31 <****> dwu: It takes a fair bit of time, though.
03:31 <****> jagerman: My lecturer tended to feedback and let you try and fix it on the spot and show her, was quite good fun, actually.
03:31 <****> dwu: Some students are great, barely any time required, 100%. But the, um, less good ones take a fair bit longer.
03:31 <****> jagerman: Yes, but dedication is -good- :) y'know, until it extends into correcting code on -paper-.
03:31 <****> dwu: Oh, I do that in the labs, too.
03:32 <****> jagerman: <3<3
03:32 <****> http://www.cs.mdx.ac.uk/research/PhDArea/saeed/paper1.pdf
03:33 <****> Why bother printing out double-sided, anyway?
03:33 <****> SAVE THE TREES
03:33 <****> The effort of setting it up, when you just have a plain printer like mine, is not worth the cost of the extra sheets of paper.
03:33 <****> ah.
03:33 <****> dwu: See, as an economics student, I don't buy into crap like that.
03:33 <****> thrig: Oh, that looks interesting.
03:34 <****> I was being sarcastic.
03:34 <****> If we want to save the trees, put a tax on paper and use *that* money to "save the trees"
03:34 <****> Well, flippant. One of them.
03:34 <****> dwu: right click on tree, save as. done. I saved a tree.
03:34 * jagerman detects copyright infringement of God, since He must have invented the trees.
03:35 <****> ... have I seen you somewhere else before, Supaplex...?
03:35 <****> - -
03:35 <****> irl?
03:35 <****> Probably not, but your nick rings a bell...
03:35 <****> I idle on irc a lot
03:36 <****> Yeah. So do I. :/
03:36 <****> jagerman: that doesn't seem to stop people from smoking :)
03:36 <****> thrig: This figure of 30-60% failure rates--how does it compare to failure rates across university as a whole? I have heard similar figures quoted for all first year courses
03:36 <****> Khisanth: The point isn't to stop people, it's to cut down consumption.
03:37 <****> Khisanth: Price as a rationing feature is a very, very powerful tool.
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