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09 October 2007
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00:56 <****> my @slice = @array[$start .. $end] doing magic things when $end == -1 sounds horrible.
00:56 <****> f00li5h, What happened to the real GumbyBrain? Why is he GummyBrain now?
00:56 <****> Zoffix: it's a trap!
00:56 <****>:O
00:56 <****> jagerman: -anything, even
00:56 <****> jagerman: good point...
00:56 <****> jagerman: I want 2..-5 :)
00:57 <****> it only really makes sense when the literals are there to see
00:57 <****> Zoffix: Not bad. Good night's sleep, for once.
00:57 <****> DWU DWU WHAT?
00:57 <****> dwu, Sounds good :)
00:57 <****> But then you have different behaviour for literals vs. variables, which is also horrible./
00:57 <****> work tomorrow :( me unhappy
00:57 <****> jagerman: nono, it only makes sense [for humans to read] when they're literals
00:58 <****> Zoffix: can has jobs?
00:58 * CPAN upload: DBIx-StORM-0.03 by LUKEROSS
00:58 * CPAN upload: Algorithm-CheckDigits-0.47 by MAMAWE
00:58 <****> jagerman, we have that with scalar .. already
00:58 <****> StORM ... hell of a name!
00:58 <****> a literal is compared to $.
00:59 <****> i guess i dont understand the horribleness, but its only syntax so it doesnt really matter
00:59 <****> anno-: what'd i miss just theN?
00:59 <****> tarrybone: what does @kitties[ $first ... $last ] # do when you can have negative $first and $last?
00:59 <****> anno-: That's true. And it's horrible. :)
01:00 <****> jagerman, it is
01:00 <****> Zoffix: Yeah, shockingly :)
01:01 <****> f00li5h: i dont mind it choking if it, say, wraps around. but i also dont mind it actually wrapping. other than that, whats the problem? the only decent argument ive heard is that existing code expects empty arrays
01:01 <****> evening
01:01 <****> i've been saying "do { 1 } .. /foo/" to fight it
01:02 <****> erm, that was ambiguous. wrapping in that case means hitting the same element twice. maybe i should call that 'lapping'
01:02 <****> sqrt(1) .. /foo/ :)
01:02 <****> GummyBrain, dongs
01:02 <****> error while loading shared libraries, libsqlplus.so cannot open shared object file, no file or dirtory ....
01:02 <****>:( fucking asshole
01:02 <****> abs(1), cos(0), heh, never thought of that
01:02 <****> f00li5h, fix my cat!
01:02 * f00li5h patches the cat
01:02 * jagerman gets the scissors
01:03 <****> GummyBrain, Long live the fighters of Duke Paul-Muad'dib
01:03 <****> preaction: Muad'dib is the base. You understand rhythm like this duke.
01:03 <****> AND WHERE IS MY SPRAY!
01:03 <****> Zoffix: ED treatment?
01:03 <****> perlbot, ed
01:03 <****> f00li5h, ed?
01:03 * kspath_ dumps a gallon of cat urine on Zoffix
01:03 <****> tarrybone: yeah, it'd still be a pain to read, other than that a use oddness qw/backward_slices/ would be fine
01:03 * Zoffix drinks it all
01:03 <****> Zoffix: Erectile Disfunction
01:03 <****> mmmm. cat urine... yummmy
01:04 <****> f00li5h, and that's why he shits next to the box? :S
01:04 <****> f00li5h: agree both about it being ugly to look at and the pragma necessity
01:04 <****> anno-: Unfortunately, it doesn't work
01:04 <****> tarrybone: also you'd want to have a comment to say it does that
01:04 <****> f00li5h, no, I think it's because I got __three__ cats and only __one__ shitbox.. The chick in the animal shelter said that you should have at least one.
01:04 <****> Zoffix: o_O pardon?
01:04 <****> anno-: sqrt(1) gets optimized to 1 at compile time :(
01:04 <****> ah... it's optimized
01:04 <****> Zoffix: one ofr each kitty?
01:04 <****> same for cos(0)
01:04 <****> f00li5h, yeah. at _least_
01:04 <****> deparse: cos 0
01:04 <****> f00li5h: 1;
01:04 <****> winnar!
01:05 <****> Zoffix: ah, i understand
01:05 <****> deparse sin 1
01:05 <****> Zoffix: 0.8414709848078965;
01:05 <****> deparse sin $foo
01:05 <****> Zoffix: sin($foo);
01:05 <****> nifteh
01:06 <****> SINNERS!
01:08 <****> deparse: 4*atan2(1,1)
01:08 <****> jagerman: 3.1415926535897931;
01:08 <****> perlbot, pi
01:08 <****> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865
01:08 <****> perlbot, pie
01:08 <****> Ding, pies are done!
01:08 <****> that's fries.
01:10 <****> deparse: print "mer"."ha"."ba"
01:10 <****> hasan: print('merhaba');
01:10 <****> thx
01:10 <****> :)
01:11 <****> eval: eval print eval eval;
01:11 <****> hasan: 1
01:11 <****> deparse: meow
01:11 <****> f00li5h: 'meow';
01:11 <****> deparse: fooli5h
01:11 <****> hasan: 'fooli5h';
01:11 <****> hmm
01:11 <****> right
01:11 * f00li5h is a bareword
01:11 <****> oh shit
01:11 <****> :P
01:12 <****> programming is meaningless
01:12 <****> life is meaningless
01:12 <****> hasan: empty
01:12 <****> everything is just a change of electric signals
01:12 <****> and i'm not far from a hex number in some notations (ie the ones that add a H to the end to indicate it's hex)
01:12 <****> life is an empty string
01:12 <****> eval: $life
01:12 <****> f00li5h: undef
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