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11 October 2007
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01:11 <****> Caelum: I thought that had changed now
01:11 <****> no idea
01:12 <****> Caelum: The radeon xorg driver STILL doesn't support TV out.
01:12 <****> AT ALL.
01:12 <****> It is hardly "extremely well"
01:12 <****> jagerman: that's pretty sad
01:12 <****> So, for my next notebook, definitely nvidia or intel graphics.
01:13 <****> the intel i have used didn't perform as well as i thought it should have
01:14 <****> i just stick with nvidia... never had any problems
01:14 <****> I'm using the intel drivers on this machine @work, it works ok, except if I try to restart X the whole thing crashes :(
01:14 <****> jagerman: the intels are very nice for laptops. _perfect_ xrandr support, probably because the xrandr devs use them :)
01:14 <****> nvidia is probably the way to go, yeah
01:15 <****> hobbs: I figure the intel chips probably use less power (being integrated) than discrete graphics
01:15 <****> likely
01:15 <****> nvidia makes integrated chipsets too, I think
01:16 <****> AFAIK, only for cheapo desktop systems.
01:16 <****> I've never seen an integrated video nvidia chipset in a notebook
01:17 <****> pravus: How often do you need 3d anyway?
01:17 <****> jagerman: not often, but i've found the 2D performance of nvidia chips seems better than the rest
01:17 <****> I mean, about the only thing I use it for even on my desktop is to run beryl/compiz, and I could easily do without that.
01:19 <****> the ATIs and Intels that i have used have all had weird glitches, artifacting and ghosting. the only time i've gotten that with an nvidia card is when the fan died and it was overheating.
01:21 <****> i used to use Matrox. they were the best 2D cards around for a long time.
01:24 <****> are they still alive? matrox used to be a favorite for linux people
01:24 <****> Caelum: i think they exist, but last i recall they weren't doing to well
01:29 <****> pbotty
01:31 <****> ah, sweet vacation.
01:31 <****> What's going on? Anyone going to the Perl event in Pitt this weekend?
01:34 <****> insufficient transportation.
01:35 <****> Same.
01:35 <****> Any ideas about a RegEx to match (with 1 or 0 cases) *.example.com, but when a 0 case is there, set the null value to "www"?
01:36 <****> say what?
01:36 <****> what.
01:36 <****> Supaplex: SAY "WHAT" ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME
01:37 <****> no thanks. :p~
01:37 <****> www.example.com
01:37 <****> Capso: you don't do that with a regex, you do that with code.
01:37 <****> Capso: that doesn't contain ".example.com"
01:37 <****> also, that.
01:38 <****> K. Thanks.
01:38 <****> Probably not using Perl.
01:39 <****> s/^(?:www\.)?/www./
01:39 <****> Assuming he actually wants a replacement. He was fuzzy on that
01:41 <****> What happens if they give you: foo.com.au?
01:41 <****> Woosta, coitusmentis.info
01:41 <****> Does the 'foo' count? Or do we really want to force www on there no matter what?
01:42 <****> Coz if you go to www.any-of-my-domains.tld you'll be redirected to any-of-my-domains.tld
02:09 <****> TRANCE ON
02:10 <****> trance off
02:10 <****> the trance is now `on'
02:11 * dondelelcaro shoots the DJ and puts Vega in is place
02:11 <****> that's not how you play Street Fighter
02:12 <****> vega as in little louis vega
02:12 <****> not vega as in freddy kruger wanna-be
02:13 <****> DEEE JAYYY
02:13 <****> wtf :/
02:15 <****> PAUSE admins: Andreas, Adam Kennedy, Johan Vromans, brian d foy - who am I missing? :o
02:16 * dkr nominates GumbyBRAIN as admin
02:16 <****> GumbyGumby: queue for blowjobs
02:16 <****> Woosta: For learning perl for sysadmin work.
02:18 <****> NOTHING CAN BE KNOWN
02:23 <****> AND EVEN IF YOU COULD KNOW SOMETHING YOU COULDN'T TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT
02:24 * CPAN rating: WWW-Mediawiki-Client rated 4 stars by Evan Prodromou
02:28 * CPAN upload: Acme-Lambda-0.03 by NELHAGE
02:35 <****> ~/whois yaakov
02:36 <****> some guy on #perl
02:43 * CPAN upload: Coro-4.1 by MLEHMANN
02:43 * CPAN upload: Coro-4.11 by MLEHMANN
02:53 <****> I need to slice a split commands output. I want 1-end. this doesn't seem to work for me: push @pkgs, +(split /\s+/, $_)[1..-1];
02:56 <****> anyone?
02:56 <****> sabooky: Use a temporary array
02:57 <****> sabooky: kinda ugly, but: push @pkgs, do { my @t = split /\s+/; @t[1..$#t] }
02:57 <****> does anyone know of a perl IDE for linux?
02:57 <****> utopia_: vim :)
02:57 <****> utopia_, Unix.
02:57 <****> heh
02:57 <****> IDE is obsolete, use SATA instead.
02:57 <****> i was looking for something i could use to execute my scripts from
02:58 <****> and open em up in an xterm or whatever
02:58 <****> screen + vim, then
02:58 <****> jagerman, pravus thanks
02:58 <****> well you can do that in vim!
02:58 * CPAN upload: Catalyst-Plugin-PickComponents-0.01 by FAYLAND
02:58 * CPAN upload: String-Smart-0.1 by ANDYA
02:58 <****> SATA support on old OSes sucks (like WinXP)
02:58 <****> works fine here
02:58 <****> though this is really based on 2k3
02:58 <****> preaction, Would've thought they'd had it covered in an SP?
02:59 <****> apeiron, likewise. it "works", but there are some definate eccentricities...
02:59 <****> Ah, 'eccentricities', what a convenient term. :)
02:59 <****> like for some reason any SMB shares on my SATA drive only allow view/edit of that directory, not any subdirectories
03:00 <****> and the SATA drive will disconnect once in a while, though as of late it hasn't (maybe they fixed that one)
03:00 <****> wow... that's a whole class of problems i've avoided.
03:00 <****> i'm so glad my worldview of Windows is through the window of a VM
03:01 <****> Windows of any version is a whole class of problems.
03:01 <****> ooh, for some reason I can't share the whole drive over SMB. the option isn't even there. I had to do it using the command-line
03:01 * preaction could go on...
03:01 <****> that's just broken. i mean, that should be abstracted somewhere so that it doesn't matter.
03:02 <****> yay vfs!
03:02 <****> i plan on putting some measure of a decent linux desktop on that computer once i get a new hard drive so i can keep the data on the windows drive and move it off safely after the new OS is in place
03:02 <****> To hell with the data
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