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12 October 2007
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 12 00:00:10 2007
00:00 <****> HAPPY ID TO EVERYONE!
00:00 <****> but what about my ego?
00:00 <****> preaction, What ego?
00:00 <****> you know, my super-ego
00:01 <****> "Doctor, he's making things up again..."
00:01 <****> you can't prove i'm not not making things up again
00:07 <****> okay, here we go again. I'm out of here
00:09 <****> yay. I'm beginning to imagine that I'm seeing HASH(0x...) in SELECT statements.
00:12 * CPAN upload: Coat-0.1_0.6 by SUKRIA
00:28 * CPAN upload: Crypt-Util-0.05 by NUFFIN
00:47 <****> lastlog -clear
00:51 <****> I used the word 'fucking' in a job interview. Is that bad?
00:52 <****> how did you use the word?
00:52 <****> I can't remember. When I did it I went into shock.
00:52 <****> I think I said 'Music is for the fucking birds'.
00:52 <****> 'I just want to play golf and program'.
00:52 <****> hahaha
00:52 <****> "Your website has a fscking awesome design."
00:53 <****> "this is a totally fscking job"
00:53 <****> What happens when you just eat fruits but you never eat vegetables?
00:53 <****> can't happen
00:53 <****> GumbyGumby: What happens when you just eat fruits but you never eat vegetables?
00:53 <****> initself: When did you try to prepare it, and pastebin what happens.
00:53 <****> fruits are vegetables
00:54 <****> fruits are vegetables
00:54 <****> that's a good one
00:54 <****> eval: fruits eq vegetables
00:54 <****> initself: ''
00:54 <****> heh
00:54 <****> at least the fruits produced by plants are
00:54 <****> uh.
00:55 <****> There are fruits NOT made by plants now?
00:55 <****> there's the fruits of your labor
00:55 <****> and the fruits of your loom.
00:55 <****> I just meant by that, the word 'fruit' has other meanings
00:55 <****> Like... you're fruity.
00:55 <****> indeed
00:56 <****> hobbs: I want to come to the midwest and work for your company.
00:56 <****> url of said company?
00:56 <****> dduncan: I have no idea.
00:56 <****> I just want to work on Catalyst.
00:57 <****> And hang out with hobbs.
00:57 <****> And go to ChicagoPM meetings.
00:57 <****> okay
00:57 <****> instead of being in freaking orange county
00:57 <****> orange county is the most perl unfriendly place in the world.
00:58 <****> initself, Get a telecommute job.
01:19 <****> except for everywhere else
01:19 <****> cfedde, Hmm?
01:20 <****> apeiron: just a reaction to initself'
01:20 <****> s comment of a few minutes ago
01:20 <****> cfedde, Yes. Not sure I follow. :)
01:21 <****> orange county is the most perl unfriendly place in the world.
01:21 <****> except for everywhere else.
01:21 <****> by which I ment that perl is not especialy popular anywhere.
01:22 <****> Ahh.
01:22 <****> I'm not sure, but I think I saw a link to a graph or map somewhere that displayed geography vs. popularity of perl.
01:23 * apeiron shrugs.
01:23 <****> I think it is more the matter that Perl is actually quite popular still, but it isn't advertised or limelighted so much
01:23 <****> more of a silent majority type thing
01:23 <****> I bet it moves about the same as say.. Java only you'd need a log z scale to see the perl popularity.
01:23 <****> dduncan, Advertising and limelighting have never been the Perl way. :)
01:24 <****> my point is, I understand that Perl is more popular than people may realize
01:24 <****> dduncan: I think that I agree with you.
01:25 <****> GumbyGumby: dongs?
01:25 <****> iank: Is it possible to believe that you probably could have been documented sightings of worms as you check out the dongs of war!
01:25 <****> i think one of the problems is that the largest, most established Perl projects are so full of bad Perl practices (awstats, slashcode)
01:25 <****> The problem I see is, that in the past perl was mentioned by people that knew. But now there are more and more people that go with java or python or other and perl is much less a default answer these days
01:26 <****> few large projects are really all that clean, I think :)
01:26 <****> s/large//
01:27 <****> there's normal and then there's fail, and i know for a fact that awstats is fail. haven't had a chance to look inside slashcode
01:27 <****> I remember being fairly repulsed by Slashcode.
01:27 <****> I've never read it, and it still scares me.
01:28 <****> But then that might've just been the rampant Linux zealot spirit in the code itself.
01:28 <****> help help I'm being oppressed!
01:30 <****> our admin system (which is comprised of java, pl/sql, c, cobol, shell and perl) has some of the most horrid code i have ever seen in my life. including some of the garbage i've added to it recently :)
01:30 <****> Anything written in that many languages HAS to be horrid
01:30 <****> perlbot bad
01:30 <****> Broken As Designed - There comes a time when it's easier to start from scratch.
01:31 <****> yay
01:31 <****> Who added that nugget of a factoid?
01:31 <****> me
01:31 <****> preaction++ # witty
01:31 <****> perlbot poop
01:31 <****> perlbot: lol
01:31 <****> what the fuck is so funny?
01:31 <****> isn't that supposed to return a link to perllol?
01:31 <****> i swear i found this comment in a C source file: now that we can use else ...
01:32 <****> pravus: :'D
01:32 <****> iank: not in particular, no.
01:32 <****> pravus, er.. developing against an evolving compiler maybe?
01:32 <****> apeiron: i have no idea. i can only assume so.
01:32 * iank needs to get his handy interrobang key working on his laptop
01:33 <****> pravus, Scary though, 'cause if it couldn't parse else, it probably isn't self-hosting, and I'd be pretty concerned about coding against such a compiler.
01:33 <****> apeiron: it's actually Pro*C which allows you to embed Oracle SQL
01:33 <****> pravus, .... ew.
01:33 <****> so it could have been an older version of that
01:34 * apeiron likes keeping his SQL and code separate... better yet is not having to write the SQL. :)
01:34 <****> 211 gotos in our transcript code (17k lines)
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