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15 October 2007


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03:21 <****> cpan is gonna make me really hot it if doesn't hurry up and fetch this package
03:22 <****> prakriti: No exact match: AI::Categorizer::Hypothesis, AI::Fuzzy::Axis, Acme::MetaSyntactic::nis, Apache::MP3::L10N::is, Biblio::Isis, Bio::Tools::Run::Analysis, Bot::BasicBot::Pluggable::Module::Whois, Business::BancaSella::Ris, Business::OnlinePayment::Jettis, Catalyst::Exception::Apoptosis
03:22 <****> errr
03:22 <****> cpan HTML::TableExtract
03:22 <****> prakriti: HTML::TableExtract: Flexible HTML table extraction, by Matt Sisk, M/MS/MSISK/HTML-TableExtract-2.10.tar.gz
03:22 <****> LWP failed with code[400] message[FTP return code 000]
03:22 <****> drat!
03:25 <****> get a better mirror
03:25 <****> http://mirrors.cpan.org/
03:26 <****> So what is everyone making of the Perl Survey results?
03:27 <****> how do I set a new mirror?
03:27 <****> there is a perl survey?
03:27 <****> perlmonkey2:
03:27 <****> peshalto: http://perlsurvey.org/results/
03:28 <****> oh found it
03:28 * CPAN upload: JSON-XS-1.52 by MLEHMANN
03:29 <****> Wow, the brits made a very good accounting of themselves as far as salary goes.
03:30 <****> Dear lord.....I thought I was a grossly overpaid Perl dev, but apparently I'm quite underpaid. The US salary numbers are staggering.
03:30 <****> perlmonkey2: thanks. guess i'll wait for the report, or something other than a raw data dump.
03:35 <****> if $line = 'a b c d 1234', what is happening here: print $line =~ /(1)(2)(3)(4)/;
03:36 <****> print $line =~ /1234/; will print '1' because there was a match.
03:36 <****> yes
03:36 <****> exactly
03:36 <****> list context, return value of m// in
03:36 <****> but if i add even one capture to my match condition, then it prints the captured match.
03:37 <****> ! so /(1)(2)(3)(4)/ returns a list of matched scalars?
03:37 <****> if ( ( $one, $two, $three, $four ) =~ /(1)(2)(3)(4)/ )
03:37 <****> perldoc perlop
03:38 <****> oh but you are using $line... hrm
03:39 <****> i can't find documentation on what is going on here.
03:40 <****> is there anyway i can find out basic system information with perl of so which standard modules will help me to find out
03:40 <****> PERLDOC PERLOP
03:40 <****> xerophyte: like what?
03:41 <****> mauke for like os type and stuff
03:41 <****> $^O
03:41 <****> mauke is that big o or zero?
03:41 <****> eval: $^O
03:41 <****> mauke: linux
03:41 <****> xerophyte, O
03:41 <****> xerophyte, perldoc perlvar
03:41 <****> eval: $^0
03:41 <****> mauke: ''ERROR: Number found where operator expected at (eval 213) line 1, near "$^0"syntax error at (eval 213) line 1, near "$^0"
03:42 <****> O 0
03:42 <****> mauke: how can i find other info like distro and stuff i guess i need to work parsing files am ir ight
03:42 * CPAN upload: File-Remove-0.38 (++++ ) by ADAMK
03:42 * CPAN upload: Net-OAuth-0.03 by KGRENNAN
03:42 <****> mauke thx
03:42 <****> eval: [ POSIX::uname ]
03:42 <****> mauke: ['Linux','erxz.com','2.6.8-3-686-smp','#1 SMP Thu Sep 7 04:39:15 UTC 2006','i686']
03:43 <****> $^O works but i need to find the distro too i guess i need to parse files
03:43 <****> xerophyte: /etc/redhat-release for redhat and centos and ...
03:43 <****> kspath: thx
03:44 <****> xerophyte: /etc/debian_version
03:44 <****> kspath: will break on ubuntu
03:45 <****> /etc/lsb-release?
03:45 <****> Figuring out the distro is messy until LSB is a real standard, I think.
03:45 <****> wolverian: yeah, on recent ubuntu anyway :)
03:45 <****> debian 3.1 doesn't have it.. but not sure if that box has the lsb package installed
03:50 * ew73 squints at the average perl dev job in the US. I need a new job, it seems.
03:50 <****> At least, the salary.
03:50 <****> ;)
03:51 <****> wolverian: etch 4.0 is stable release now sarge was stable 3.1
03:51 <****> kspath: still doesn't have lsb-release by default :)
03:51 <****> kspath, so?
03:51 <****> I wonder how many of those "150,000+" people are throwing off the average, though.
03:51 <****> some boxes don't want to be touched that way.
03:51 <****> they're prim.
03:51 <****> DAMN ME AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF STATISTICS
03:52 <****> GumbyBRAIN: statsmite ew73
03:52 <****> Ew73 squints at the same thing ew73.
03:52 <****> GumbyGumby: gumbybrain
03:52 <****> iank: jesus wont protect you from downloading anything but approved centos rpms.
03:52 <****> Jesus should be protecting me from RPMs!
03:52 <****> Jesus rolls on security!
03:54 <****> btw, does anyone know a why the example for index() like it's found in the book programing perl, but not only there, does start at offset -1 instead of 0? 0 and -1 seems to produce the same output, but i just don't get the sence behind starting at -1. http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/prog/ch03_075.htm
03:55 <****> falcon78: perldoc -f index says: ``POSITION before the beginning of the string or after its end is treated as if it were the beginning or the end, respectively.''
03:56 <****> "TrueFX" at 85.105.198.35 pasted "cant compile" (34 lines, 896B) at http://sial.org/pbot/28047
03:58 * CPAN upload: Apache2-AuthenOpenID-0.02 by DANJOU
03:58 * CPAN upload: Net-Proxy-0.11 by BOOK
03:59 <****> TrueFX: do we get to guess what the errors are?
03:59 <****> falcon78, Just as an FYI, the unix.org.ua/oreilly/ links are in breach of copyright.
04:00 <****> LLANIM"; and is what you're trying to do, that is invalid
04:00 <****> GumbyGumby: taco man arrows
04:00 <****> SubStack: The waist is the man that you can eat buffet is a weapon for propelling arrows.
04:03 <****> iank: that explains why it does the same, but what reason besides of obfuscation has it to start at -1 instead of 0?
04:03 <****> falcon78: frell if I know ;)
04:04 <****> Perhaps just demonstrating.
04:04 <****> I don't really see the point of specifying POSITION if you're gonna seach from the start, anyway.
04:06 <****> iank: you'll need it in further iterations of the search, so there has to be an offset var in it
04:07 <****> (I should perhaps read the page you mentioned :)
04:07 <****> `page deleted', eh
04:07 <****> filterd internet?
04:07 <****> nope. You looking at the google cache?
04:07 <****> or some ip based rescrition?
04:07 <****> perhaps.
04:07 <****> -c+t
04:08 <****> Maybe it says that for US IPs.
04:08 <****> might be, so it tries to respect us copyright laws
04:09 <****> try is probably not the right word
04:10 * iank GumbyGumby gumbybrain


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