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16 October 2007
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01:27 <****> dwu: lmao
01:27 <****> pravus, if strptime is the inverse of strftime, then use POSIX qw(strptime) should work..
01:27 <****> I think
01:27 <****> WebDragon: If you'd rather snark than suggest improvements, then you shouldn't expect things to improve in the direction you might like.
01:27 <****> pfn: see hobbs' comment
01:28 <****> WebDragon: This is fact, not baiting.
01:28 <****> dngor: when I have some specific feedback I can put into words that involve specific issues that I understand well enough to comment on, instead of ranting about the general incompleteness -- which will be about as constructive as waving half finished plans around and not being an architect... I'll do so
01:28 <****> hmm, thanks, not in POSIX... bummer
01:28 <****> dngor: ' If you think you aren't good enough to use the standard community support resources ' <-- this was the baiting part
01:28 <****> HA HA YOU SUX.
01:29 <****> WebDragon: You overestimate the effort needed to contribute. A pointer that says "this sucks, what do you mean?" is sufficient.
01:29 <****> frankly anything that's not related around my understanding of this code well enough to change it, IS a tangent
01:30 <****> WebDragon: Annocpan lets you annotate the docs in the places where they don't make sense.
01:30 <****> POE is the shit
01:30 <****> dngor: speaking of which, you feel like moving to the bay area?
01:30 <****> I'm sure the docs are fine if you grok the subject matter well enough. I don't
01:30 <****> tag: Not at all, but thanks for asking. :)
01:30 <****> :-)
01:30 <****> the tutorial section of the wiki has .. parody song lyrics in it? doesn't that belong in a different section of the wiki?
01:30 <****> Bay Area ftl.
01:31 <****> I guess I can use basic parsing and Time::Local
01:31 <****> some of the tutorial links are broken or point to places that no longer contain the tutuorial matter being pointed to
01:31 <****> pfn: Can't you get the DB to do that?
01:31 <****> in the bay area, it's easy to find food 24 hours a day.
01:31 <****> Your logic is overwhelming.
01:31 <****> Juerd: that's just a non-existant character .. the zero width space is 200B: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200b/index.htm
01:32 <****> WebDragon: If you think the docs are good, then your comments about the "state of the POE docs" are out of line. Either that or you're being disingenusus now.
01:32 <****> Woosta: not entirely :)
01:32 <****> Disingenuous.
01:32 <****> Dissin' genesis.
01:33 <****> also, bay area has frequent rainstorms and is cold.
01:33 <****> this demonstrates that zeus is jealous.
01:33 * WebDragon sighs and is tired of being misinterpreted
01:33 <****> the wiki
01:33 <****> poe.perl.org
01:33 <****> that ^
01:33 <****> Woosta: I'm sure he meant U+FEFF, of course :)
01:34 <****> Ahhh
01:34 <****> dwu I can't help but notice that GumbyBRAIN has a long memory that is shared between channels ;-)
01:34 <****> You don't want to know
01:34 <****> bpalmer: I am convinced.
01:34 <****> Yes, that would make more sense
01:34 <****> http://poe.perl.org/?POE_Documentation/Beginners_Guide <-- this, with unanswered todo's
01:35 <****> http://poe.perl.org/?Tutorials <-- this, with stuff that isn't tutorial related
01:35 <****> It *is* a wiki. You could sign up and make comments right on the pages.
01:35 <****> So, to output such chars it's \uFEFF ?? I can't remember any of this, ever!
01:35 <****> http://poe.perl.org/?Tutorials <-- this again, with links that have succumbed to link rot
01:35 <****> pravus: Genghis!
01:35 <****> Woosta: \x{FEFF} -- but you want 200B anyway ;)
01:36 <****> Nah, FEFF is better
01:36 <****> So maybe if someone who cares more than you comes along, they'll know what you'd like fixed.
01:36 <****> Zazzle's API if broken
01:36 <****> dngor: being that the state of the wiki seems mired in 2002-2004, what would you say the odds of my comments being responded to any time this year being, in light of TODO's having been added and unresponded to for the past three ?
01:36 <****> KKKKKKHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNn
01:36 <****> If I give a string that starts with 'http' it tries to use it as a URL to upload a photo
01:36 <****> so i'm sending ht\x{FEFF}tp://
01:36 <****> so it needs to be non-breaking
01:37 <****> Woosta: I'm pretty sure it's recommended not to use that anywhere except as a BOM, but instead to use 200B or 2060 as appropriate
01:37 <****> WebDragon: The odds are better than if you stop at snarking about it on IRC.
01:38 <****> ahh
01:38 <****> dngor: as I've stated, and now re-state: I'll be more than happy to supply anything _once I understand the subject matter well enough to do so_
01:38 <****> dngor: as, IMNERHO, it will do no good to say "this sucks" if no one does anything about it, no matter where I post it.
01:38 <****> WebDragon: but will you be happy to shut the fuck up anytime today?
01:39 <****> I'd much rather FIX what sucks
01:39 <****> WebDragon: Again, feedback is as valuable as actual content. The barrier to entry is pretty low here... but you're magnifying it in your mind.
01:39 <****> cu
01:39 <****> WebDragon: in the time you've spent here in the past 20 minutes or so, you could have been writing a small POE program to learn how it works.
01:39 <****> dngor: shall we take this private ? so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of those in here who'd rather be offensive than constructive?
01:39 <****> pravus: you're telling me?
01:39 <****> WebDragon: i see a very simple structure you could start with right in the beginner's guide you posted earlier.
01:40 * idiotben thinks you all need a nice piece of pie
01:40 <****> dngor: please, shall we discuss this privately? we're only encouraging the snarking further, and I really do wish a sane discussion on this tangent
01:40 <****> HA HA NO.
01:40 <****> as long as we're on it, anyway
01:40 <****> No, I've said all I wanted a few times already. It's not going to get any better.
01:40 <****> This is the realm of the lack of sanity.
01:40 <****> fair enough
01:41 <****> buu: you are attempting to be sane again?
01:41 * WebDragon returns to the task at hand
01:41 <****> buu was sane once?
01:41 <****> bpalmer: Here.. in the valley.. of the ganji.
01:42 <****> Akbar Ganji?
01:42 <****> One-on-one isn't the best use of my time. I could, for example, be rewriting the docs... which is my #1 priority (even over fixing the web site). I can only do one thing at a time, which is why I wholeheartedly approve of any contributions I can get. Even just "this sux" posted to the appropriate place.
01:42 <****> Later.
01:46 <****> is there a way to use system() to execute a straight string rather than a list?
01:46 <****> (pass it through the systems shell to split it up)
01:46 <****> or just use backticks
01:47 <****> Ademan: yes... by giving it a string. :)
01:47 <****> hobbs: heh, that'll work?
01:48 <****> Ademan: see the paragraph beginning "If there is more than one" in perldoc -f exec -- exactly the same applies to system.
01:49 <****> ah very cool hobbs thank
01:49 <****> thanks*
01:49 <****>{$dealer_id} }) {
01:49 <****> Not a HASH reference at exportScionSales.pl line 308.
01:50 <****> initself: no, nothing wrong with the syntax. It's just that that's evidently not a hashref. :)
01:50 <****> "initself" at 216.231.4.10 pasted "why the hell not?" (10 lines, 349B) at http://sial.org/pbot/28056
01:51 <****> good question
01:52 <****> initself: what is $dealer_id?
01:52 <****> a scalar
01:52 <****> $VAR1 = {
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