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20 October 2007
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02:54 <****> yeah, i actually wrote prostate first before realizing that wasn't quite the word i wanted
02:55 <****> so arrowed back and stuck an r
02:55 <****> just in the rwong place
02:55 <****> Was that intentional?
02:55 <****> Because it was funny.
02:55 <****> um, yes!
02:55 <****> of course it was!
02:55 <****> gumbybrain: rwong
02:55 <****> Tomorrow. 2K people. 1200 In the rwong place.
02:55 * iank gumbybrain GumbyGumby
02:55 <****> gumbybrain is gumbygumby.
02:55 <****> gumbybrain is gumbygumby.
02:56 <****> i figured since i lied about writing it in 1982 i might as well use a movie reference from then
02:56 <****> free cookie to anyone who got it
02:56 <****> bigger cookie to anyone actually answering my query
03:00 <****> Somni: i hate both python and C++ :)
03:01 <****> then some language you don't hate
03:01 <****> threading in Perl sucks, and should be avoided for anything serious
03:01 <****> Swerve to avoid a thread and slide sideways into a barrier.
03:02 <****> who knows, 5.10 may immediately solve the problem with threads in Perl
03:02 <****> but I doubt it, it probably won't be until perl6
03:02 <****> problems, rather
03:02 <****> Somni: problem is that for a worker model where the master needs to collect return values, threads are more or less perfect
03:02 <****> GumbyBRAIN gumby pokey
03:02 <****> And what, pray tell, is this a common operation in perl. It usually isn't! (It's also not our fault that nobody in #php or #regex knows the utf8 flag of a module, how can i check if a lost baby is found, pokey does not parse html by hand.
03:02 <****> RichiH: that may be, but not when you involve Perl
03:03 <****> RichiH: you may as well switch languages, or fork
03:03 <****> RichiH: threads cost about the same as forking
03:03 <****> possibly more!
03:03 <****> they definately cost time ;)
03:03 <****> GumbyBRAIN++ # hokey pokey
03:03 <****> Gumbybrain gumby pokey.
03:03 <****> about the only thing you gain with threads in Perl is easily shared data structures, but you can hide those details with a decent IPC module
03:04 <****> what is the perl way to get values back into the fork()'ed master, then?
03:04 <****> IPC goes both ways
03:05 * iank gumbybrain gumbygumby
03:05 <****> gumbybrain is gumbygumby.
03:05 <****> gumbybrain is gumbygumby.
03:05 <****> gumbybrain is gumbygumby.
03:05 <****> BOTS. FAILURE.
03:05 <****> REACTIVATE
03:05 <****> buubot: JERK IT
03:05 <****> iank: ONLY IN AMERICA CAN WE BE THIS GAY AND NOT BE KILLED (ALTHOUGH BEATEN SEVERELY)
03:06 <****> buubot, jerk it
03:06 <****> Chris62vw: SOME DAYS I CANNOT GET UP OFF THE FLOOR. OTHER DAYS I AM NOT ALLOWED TO.
03:06 * Chris62vw GumbyBRAIN GumbyGumby dongs dongs
03:06 <****> Odd that's not going to tell gumbygumby to be dongs in there i thought it was an attempt at a hen party and asking for help with a gumbybrain.
03:06 <****> abuse gumbybrain in the way. (Be sure to tell gumbygumby to be dongs in there than google.
03:06 <****> chris62vw: fail
03:06 <****> one win, one loss. oh well
03:06 <****> perlbot action in #perl GumbyBRAIN GumbyGumby dongs
03:06 * perlbot GumbyBRAIN GumbyGumby dongs
03:06 <****> we're here to tell gumbygumby to be dongs in there with a gumbybrain.
03:06 <****> Iank++ for getting gumbybrain to tell gumbygumby to be dongs in there with a flakey net connection.
03:06 <****> so Gumby* manual flooding wasn't enough, now you're trying to get them to loop flood?
03:07 <****> yes
03:07 <****> yay
03:07 <****> gumbybrain gives me more karma
03:07 <****> It's more than me, but it wouldn't have any karma.
03:07 <****> perlbot: karma iank
03:07 <****> Karma for iank: 10
03:07 <****> hah
03:07 <****> well you know what that means
03:07 <****> oh, sorry, I read up, I didn't realize there was intelligent conversation happening
03:08 <****> a pageful of Gumby* crap seems to have stopped that
03:08 <****> way to go
03:08 <****> I didn't start it :-(
03:09 <****> "error"), and the class implementing FooException can't be found, do you wrap the exception in a default, or do you just die() ?
03:10 <****> or pretend like you're re-throwing an exception stating the class couldn't be found, hm..
03:11 <****> are you trying to hide errors? seems like die would be the way to go.
03:14 <****> if this method were in the actual function that were calling die I would probably wrap it in a new object and die with that
03:14 <****> but this is in new(), which doesn't implicitly die itself, so dying seems the safest thing to do
03:17 <****> guys, i've got this question about using bout using net::telnet. I've finally got the script to login to a telnet term and print commands on it.
03:18 <****> problem is, the output is dumped through another port.
03:18 <****> can I possibly capture the output from a view-only sort of terminal?
03:19 <****> here's a screen capture. as you can see, if i issue the command from the term on the left, its displayed in the one on the right; http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07426/dsp_dump.gif
03:20 <****> can you run script(1) first?
03:21 <****> who? moi?
03:22 <****> hi
03:22 <****> has "predeclared" a special meaning or does it just mean to be declared somewhere in the code above? specifically, what is needed for a sub to be predeclared so that you can use it without & and ()? i just can't find that information, tons on what being predeclared implies but nothing about how it's defined
03:23 <****> falcon78, means that you'd have sub{}; before using it.
03:24 <****> k, thanks
03:24 <****> input please, setting up a server with virtual machines, one more os to chose
03:24 <****> centos, debian, suse, or ubuntu
03:24 <****> please cast your vote
03:25 <****> eval: use strict; use warnings; return foo; sub foo { "FOOS!!!" }; # falcon78
03:25 <****> Zoffix: ''ERROR: Bareword "foo" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 238) line 1.
03:25 <****> eval: use strict; use warnings; sub foo { "FOOS!!!" }; return foo; # falcon78
03:25 <****> Zoffix: FOOS!!!
03:25 <****> See?
03:25 <****> k
03:26 <****> Perlmongler, the only one of those that I've tried is Ubuntu, and I dislike it more and more with every release.
03:27 <****> Lol, i think debian is best way to go, already have fedora and redhat installed (even tough there the same....)
03:27 * CPAN upload: Parse-Marpa-0.001_018 by JKEGL
03:27 <****> Perlmongler: that's what I'd used, but I'm biased.
03:28 <****> mmk thanks
03:29 <****> anyone use dbi and sqlite?
03:30 <****> perlbot, anyone
03:30 <****> Somewhere, someplace, in some universe, somebody uses whatever you just asked about. However, if you actually want help with it, please just ask a question; don't ask to ask, or ask if anyone can help.
03:30 <****> i want to be able to search every column and if possible partial match words.....
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