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20 October 2007
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03:31 <****> sounds slow
03:31 <****> yea..well
03:31 <****> I am doing song searches
03:31 <****> partial or regex matching also tends to be very specific to the flavor of database
03:31 <****> buubot, source
03:31 <****> Chris62vw: source is svn co svn://erxz.com/bb2/trunk
03:32 <****> so i set up a way to parse a string with artist: title: ect ect
03:32 <****> should i just make people have to specify what they are searching for in the search string?
03:34 <****> hrm it seems cpanp sometimes won't install modules, but claims to have installed them fine
03:39 <****> what should i D/L from CPAN to base an SMTP server around?
03:40 <****> a full blown MTA?
03:40 <****> other than Net::SMTP::Server
03:40 <****> um
03:40 <****> semi-blown MTA
03:40 <****> right now it just validates the to/from addresses against a white/black/greylist
03:40 <****> and then passes it off to a real MTA
03:40 <****> and you can't write this as a milter under an existing MTA?
03:41 <****> but right now it does listen on port 25
03:41 <****> telnet bomberman.telerama.com smtp
03:41 <****> that's the box
03:41 <****> takes in the message, messes with to/from, then trashes it or resends it.
03:41 <****> doug: why don't you use the features of your existing mta to do this?
03:41 <****> it's a little old and creaky
03:41 <****> caelum: i have a "special" system of my own design.
03:42 <****> which would, of course, be a clear indicator of an idiotic system
03:42 <****> doug: take a look at POE::Component::Server::SimpleSMTP
03:42 <****> but this one works pretty well
03:42 <****> i give out specific addresses
03:42 <****> like i can give you doug@caelum.con.com
03:42 * CPAN upload: DBIx-Class-DynamicSubclass-0.01 by SYBER
03:42 * CPAN upload: DBIx-Class-DynamicSubclass-0.02 by SYBER
03:42 <****> if you wrote me at that now, it'd bounce back saying "YOU ARE A LOSER" in polite terms
03:43 <****> telerama
03:43 <****> they are that penn. based isp right?
03:43 <****> but when i type twl in my zsh, i'll get something like this:
03:43 <****> twl caelum
03:43 <****> Successfully added doug@caelum.con.com to doug's To: whitelist
03:43 <****> sn1: yup
03:43 <****> sn1: are you a former telerama user?
03:44 <****> nah.. they screwed my friend mike wally and got him arrested.. but then donated a bunch of dumb terminals to a security conference for free, so it kind of made up for it. 'Property of telerama' was tagged all over the dumb terminals, thats what triggered my memory of telerama.
03:45 <****> so now, if you go and sell doug@caelum.con.com to someone, i'll type "tbl caelum"
03:46 <****> and get this: http://perl.con.com/con.com.txt
03:46 <****> sn1: mike wally, that would be hairball?
03:46 <****> yes
03:46 <****> very good
03:46 <****> how did you know that?
03:46 <****> do you know what he was arrested
03:47 <****> for owning the staff box?
03:47 <****> nope
03:47 <****> i remember being on some screen session with him years ago, and he was showing me the staff boxes or something
03:47 <****> he got onto the Unix server that's set up for use by Telerama users
03:47 <****> ah
03:47 <****> cracked the PW file (that's Telerama's fault for not shadowing properly)
03:48 <****> again, that's not what he got arrested for.
03:48 <****> "webx" at 66.93.79.146 pasted "trying to sort based on nested hash key value" (26 lines, 576B) at http://sial.org/pbot/28129
03:48 <****> yeah, I was around when that all happened... didnt they offer him a job or something and then sniffed him for like 2 months?
03:48 <****> like, he could have come onto our IRC channel at that point, and said "d00dz! i so owned you! check out the pw file i ran through COPS!!!!!"
03:49 <****> our?
03:49 <****> NOW
03:49 <****> how many of you have seen a kitty this BIG:
03:49 <****> http://www.diesel.pp.net.ua/news/2007-02-15-104
03:49 <****> your part of telerama?
03:49 <****> thanks for the dumb terms dude =)
03:49 <****> instead, he posted the results of the PW cracking onto an IRC channel, likw #2600 or #skriptkiddies or something
03:49 <****> what!? he did?
03:49 <****> yeah, i'm actually mr. telerama himself
03:49 <****> lame
03:49 <****> and the guy who got him arrested.
03:49 <****> small world.
03:50 <****> if he hadn't broadcast our users pw's and caused like 12398092 losers to start uploading shit to user accounts 24 hours a day
03:50 <****> i would not have called in the fedz
03:50 <****> yeah, he told me a story about meeting you
03:50 <****> Hello :) I guess the pastebot said most of what I was going to ask. Can anyone offer me help on the pastebot's URL?
03:50 <****> and he said you were cool to him, it was after the arrest
03:50 <****> at a conf.. i think the one he got all these dumb terms from..
03:50 <****> he is in jail now, some really bad stuff from a year or two ago
03:51 <****> some people never change
03:53 <****> falcon78: you can declare a subroutine before defining its body; it's simply 'sub foo;' or with prototypes, if you need them, which you shouldn't
03:54 <****> Somni: sounds like C
03:55 <****> falcon78: it is, except in C it's required, in Perl it isn't unless you need to use prototypes
03:55 <****> and prototypes are not what you think they are, so avoid them
03:56 <****> back sorry
03:56 <****> Somni: btw, does it get closer to legible and maintainable perl code this time? http://paste.debian.net/40192
03:56 <****> so my only problem with what hairball did was the broadcasting bit.
03:56 <****> definitely outside of hacker decency bounds
03:57 <****> eyah
03:57 <****> falcon78: you don't need the BEGIN block, and using constants for this is rather silly
03:57 <****> i had to hire 5 temps to come in and sit for 5 days, calling every telerama user to tell them we'd be hacked and here's their new pw
03:57 <****> did you get my pm's?
03:57 <****> oh wait
03:57 <****> oh my
03:57 <****> mike was always bad with that stuff
03:58 <****> yeah got them.
03:58 <****> yeah, so it was a total pita to deal with what he did, and cost me a few bux.
03:58 <****> so i called my friendly neighborhood fed
03:58 <****> i would have too
03:58 <****> and she came right over with her two forensic dudes
03:58 <****> asked for dox
03:58 <****> and that was pretty much the end of my involvement
03:58 <****> falcon78: How come some of your regex pieces are defined with ' ' and some with qr//? Is there a reason you didn't use qr// for all of them?
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