#perl
23 October 2007
Total 38 pages. You are browsing page 1/38.
First :: Prev :: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [...] :: Next :: Last
--- Log opened Tue Oct 23 00:00:15 2007
--- Day changed Tue Oct 23 2007
00:00 <****> Code Analyzer, Nested Code Completion, Syntax Highlighting, Project Manager, Code Editor, Graphical Debugger and numerous wizards.
00:00 <****> ??
00:00 <****> WebDragon,
00:00 <****> WebDragon, I <3 the 256 colour inkpot (well, at least the one with the few slight mods I did).
00:00 <****> project managers, there's a Project plugin for vim that works rather nicely (similar to textmate)
00:01 <****> dkr: I do not want to get a password record
00:01 <****> archangel7863: that's the only way to turn a uid into a name
00:01 <****> dkr: oh ok
00:01 <****> graphical debugging -- well, you more or less run with use diagnostics -verbose; for high-level debugging
00:01 <****> you don't often need something like gdb for perl
00:01 <****> Byako: doh! Win32::ChangeNotify (It's used in the script you pasted. Shows how much I pay attention)
00:01 <****> WebDragon: perl -d:ptkdb
00:02 <****> Facilitate team development and team collaboration by effectively managing your source code with a tight CVS integration that lets you perform CVS operations directly o SVN ?
00:02 <****> dkr: there's a Tk debugger package ? nifty
00:02 <****> svn/cvs
00:03 <****> XolYnrac: any editor can do that with a simple macro that calls cvs/svn commit and friends
00:04 <****> I setup nedit to run cvs diff and show me the graphical diff's of my changes with xxdiff and I can hit a single key to accept or reject the commit(and use the diff to help me write my commit log message)
00:05 <****> XolYnrac: consider git before you 'commit' yourself to cvs/svn : watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 where Linus Torvalds explains git vs cvs and svn
00:05 <****> that's the nice thing about development under linux, you don't need one tool that does everything, you can use various tools in concert with each other
00:05 <****> glue together the pieces that work best for _you_
00:06 <****> nod, every dev on our staff uses a different editor and several different linux distros
00:06 <****> vim also has Omni-Completion now as of version 7
00:07 <****> XolYnrac: if you're new to vim you may want to view the tutorial at www.vi-improved.org
00:07 <****> done irc-conversational-style. should be simple to follow
00:07 <****> :-)
00:07 <****> "the choice is yours, but my choice is better!"
00:08 <****> WebDragon, i whant learn perl
00:09 <****> then your best place to start is a book: any one of Learning Perl, Programming Perl, or Beginning Perl
00:09 * WebDragon personally started with Programming Perl, skimmed the stuff he didn't understand and went back and re-read it over again as he learned more and more
00:10 <****> if you have any prior programming experience, you might benefit more from Programming Perl, but it's all up to you. you can review any of those three books online.. heck you might even find them in your local library
00:10 * WebDragon donates his old revisions to the local library when he buys a new revision
00:11 <****> quit
00:12 * CPAN upload: MooseX-Iterator-0.06 by RLB
00:13 <****> perlbot: tutorial
00:13 <****> http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node=Tutorials | http://perl.com/cs/user/query/q/6?id_topic=74 | http://learn.perl.org/ | http://books.perl.org/onlinebooks | http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/ | http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/
00:15 <****> Catalyst tutorials/books: any recommendations? Lots of docs out there, but which ones should I devote my time to? (Catalyst newbie)
00:16 <****> the manual is fairly comprehensive.
00:16 <****> once you grasp the framework, finding the rest of the answers becomes easy
00:18 <****> bennymack: thanks, I thought it looked good; wanted to see if anything better existed to start out with
00:26 <****> ... I tried using Encode::decode('utf8', $theString) as the string should be in utf8, but that gave me an error "Cannot decode string with wide characters" .. can anyone explain what it going on and how to fix it?
00:29 <****> Woosta: you want to encode, not decode.
00:29 <****> ahh
00:29 <****> I'll try that :-D
00:29 <****> Woosta: and that's why decode gives you that error :)
00:29 <****> It's like pack and unpack, I never pick the right one first time
00:33 <****>
00:35 <****> wherever you're outputting it must not be capable of rendering the characters
00:36 <****> Ahh .. that's an interesting point
00:36 <****> The script is running from inittab .. output directed to a file .. I'm tail -f that file
00:36 <****> from within screen
00:36 <****> so there's about a billion layers there
00:36 <****> well make sure your screen is utf8-happy
00:37 <****> (or at least, check that file from somewhere else if you can :)
00:37 <****> yah
00:37 <****> bingo
00:37 <****> tailed it outside screen and it's just fine
00:38 <****> thanks guys
00:38 <****> the "wide character in print" warning is actually semi-harmless if you wanted UTF-8, as you're probably getting it anyway
00:39 <****> newbie q: need recommendation for simple perl package/module/etc which i can use to encrypt a file, and later on decrypt that file back to disk. Needs to be easy to use (newbie), and work on files of any length. Recommendations? i found Filter::crypto::cryptfile on cpan but i cannot see how to enter the key when encrypting/decrypting..? (like i said, newbie)
00:39 <****> although it does still mean that you could be getting some really inconsistent screwups if sometimes you print something that has characters in 128-255 but not in 256+ :)
00:39 <****> add "defutf8 on" to your screenrc
00:39 <****> sorry, your ~/.screenrc
00:41 <****> can anyone recommend any large-project documentation writers? POD is good and all, but I need something more project-wide
00:43 <****> what does that mean?
00:46 <****> great babeys yeah!
00:46 <****> ohhh behave!
00:48 <****> iFatman: I use Crypt::CBC
00:48 <****> Just remember though, it's only as encrypted as your key is private
00:49 <****> going through gnupg is also a reasonable thing to do
00:50 <****> Woosta: thanks. Its more for obfuscation than real security. we have a program (GAMS) that needs the gams files in plain text, but we would like to keeps these gams files 'hidden' as much as poss. I want to encrypt (obfuscate) these files until right before we run them, then 'decrypt' them and run GAMS, then delete the plan text files off disk again.
00:50 <****> pfft
00:50 <****> use rot13 then
00:53 <****> OK, my encode stuff isn't working out so well .. Now I'm getting ãªãªãªãªãª
00:53 <****> which looks like it's outputting it as single byte chars
00:54 <****> That's elsewhere though .. different piece of code
00:54 <****> tried the same trick :-D
00:54 <****> Woosta: you may be double-encoding.
00:54 <****> yeah
00:54 <****> that's my guess
01:00 <****> hi guys
01:01 <****> what's the best content mangement system available and written with perl ?
01:01 <****> just give me the key words
01:02 <****> TrueFX: you'd probably want to string something together with Catalyst
01:03 <****> Bricolage
01:03 <****> Caelum - Catalyst isn't a CMS
01:03 <****> oh
01:03 <****> missed the part about "string something together"
01:04 <****> Everybody wants a Catalyst to wind a piece of string around
01:04 <****> I like to tie knots with it
01:05 <****> Of course, I don't know that Bricolage is the "best" CMS written in perl but it is the big name I recognize
01:06 * jagerman hopes the best hasn't been written yet
01:06 <****> Once the best of something gets written, it'll all be downhill from there.
01:06 <****> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems
01:06 <****> search for perl
01:06 <****> I wish I had some content :(
01:15 <****> anyone have access to dialup mind testing something for me?
01:16 * jagerman is amazed people still have dialup
01:16 <****> Even my grandmother finally got ADSL last year
Total 38 pages. You are browsing page 1/38.
First :: Prev :: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [...] :: Next :: Last