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02 November 2007


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00:26 <****> Caelum I am not sure it locks the data. Maybe it locks the hashes. Ah! ok, that's worth a try.
00:26 <****> dkr: yeah, this is what happens now, how do i fix it ?
00:27 * CPAN upload: Parse-Marpa-0.001_028 (+ ) by JKEGL
00:27 * CPAN upload: DateTime-Calendar-Japanese-0.06001 by DMAKI
00:27 <****> DB42: in perl you would use .*? instead of .* for a non-greedy match
00:27 <****> non-greedy is a last resort, could you use something else? like [^"]* ?
00:28 <****> it's a multi-character delimiter though, so hard
00:28 <****> indeed...
00:28 <****> preaction_: why " ?
00:28 <****> it was an example
00:28 <****> It sounds like parsing HTML with regexes!
00:28 <****> BURN DIE DIE!
00:28 <****> Caelum when you say BerkeleyDBM do you mean the DBI interface or perlfunc::dbmopen which is declared obsoledte in the docs ?
00:28 <****> worse, he is parsing c++ code
00:29 <****> or something
00:29 <****> _abc_: the BerkeleyDB cpan module
00:29 <****> ok
00:29 <****> dkr: yeah
00:30 <****> What is the all arguments variable?
00:30 <****> Caelum does this require the package from Sleepycat or can I use the GNU one ?
00:30 <****> all this time I thoght bash stole $@ from perl
00:30 <****> signuts: @_ perhaps?
00:30 <****> signuts: @_ ?
00:30 <****> @ARGV?
00:30 <****> @ARGV ? :)
00:30 <****> Arguments to what?
00:30 <****> jinx!
00:30 <****> _abc_: you need the sleepycat lib, yes. Most distributions have it available
00:30 <****> wow, this is annoying :)
00:30 <****> the question marks mean we aren't sur eabout your question. :)
00:30 <****> jeez there is a bazillion of versions. Can someone take a look and say what is most appropriate? http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/search?query=BerkeleyDB&mode=module thx
00:30 <****> i'll try googling it :)
00:30 <****> _abc_'s url is at http://xrl.us/756p
00:31 <****> the script itself
00:31 <****> No jinx, you were 2 seconds too slow, so just count as copying me.
00:31 <****> signuts: @ARGV
00:31 <****> word
00:31 <****> !smack me and $@
00:31 <****> _abc_: the one called just BerkeleyDB
00:31 <****> ok
00:31 <****> thx
00:34 <****> GumbyBRAIN: the storm has passed
00:34 <****> Anyone know which perldoc has the time it is, that's why i might want to say just when that $x gets passed to the app closes just after connection .. Is there anyway i can storm on it this morning.
00:35 <****> (we're sending it to you guys up north on the east coast now. have fun)
00:36 <****> how do I empty an entire hash? (clear all the keys and values)
00:36 <****> %h = ()'
00:36 <****> gah
00:36 <****> You can't, have to use a new one.
00:36 <****>ö
00:36 <****> ;
00:37 <****> works for me
00:37 <****> its been too long since ive used perl
00:38 <****> I was joking :P
00:38 <****> doesnt () create a new hashref and assign it to %h ?
00:38 <****> iank really ?
00:38 <****> heh
00:38 <****> signuts: naw
00:38 <****> signuts () is an empty hash
00:39 <****> It's an empty list
00:39 <****> () is an empty list
00:39 <****> Not a hash
00:39 <****> yes
00:39 <****> {} is an empty hashref.
00:39 <****> yeah then you hit it with a hammer, dent it a few times and get a hashref
00:39 <****> There is no literal expression that yields a hash
00:39 <****> Haha
00:39 <****> An even sized list!
00:39 <****> Hashes are variables, not values
00:39 <****> An even sized list is a list
00:39 <****> ^^
00:39 <****> I know!
00:39 <****> Hashes may be assigned from even-sized lists
00:39 <****> I know too
00:39 <****> damn syntax gets me
00:40 <****> syntax, pah
00:41 * CPAN upload: DBD-MVS_FTPSQL-0.38.14 by CBIONDO
00:41 * CPAN upload: Perl6-Say-0.11 by JKEENAN
00:56 <****> anyone use nagios?
00:56 <****> <--
00:57 <****> do any intersting perfdata stuff?
00:57 <****> Not really. Played with nagiosgraph for a bit, but we've already got ganglia set up.
00:58 <****> ganglia is better than nagios?
00:59 <****> i've only ever used the predecessor to nagios
00:59 <****> No, different system.
00:59 <****> Ganglia provides the same information that nagiosgraph does.
00:59 <****> oh
00:59 <****> Ganglia is for making pretty RRD graphs of load and memory and all that, nagios is actual monitoring and notifications, etc.
01:00 <****> It's a very neat thing to have set up alongside nagios, though.
01:00 <****> eh, i don't want rrdtool though - its awkward at best
01:00 <****> Yeah.
01:00 <****> i was hoping for a sql backed robust reporting setup
01:01 <****> You don't have to use it, though.. ganglia's got a web UI that shows all the graphs for you, lets you tweak it.
01:01 <****> i've tangled with rrdtool before and it wasn't pretty
01:01 <****> oh
01:01 <****> thanks
01:05 <****> Caelum where does it saz in BerkeleyDBM that it uses mlock page locking ? http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/BerkeleyDB/BerkeleyDB.html
01:05 <****> _abc_'s url is at http://xrl.us/758n
01:05 <****> I can't find a reference to anything of the sort, excepting record locking.
01:06 <****> s/saz/say/ I go crazy switching qwerty/qwertz
01:07 <****> What is qwertz? German?


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