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08 November 2007
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04:19 <****> And Jon Stewart can totally play someone's long-long cousin's former college roommate's brother, who had plastic surgery.
04:19 <****> ok
04:19 <****> limnor language
04:19 <****> swaydam: ah, nope.
04:19 <****> no one can tell me YES this is the BEST perl web server solution, avoid anything else LIEK the plague!!
04:19 <****> how can I invert a grep?
04:19 <****> like grep -v
04:20 <****> its real cool
04:20 <****> happy_guy2: if I told you that, would you beleive me?
04:20 <****> happy_guy2: Anyone why says "this is best" without understanding your constraints is a liar and/or zealot.
04:20 * iank hands prakriti a !
04:20 <****> prakriti: grep {! /pattern/} @array
04:20 <****> yay
04:20 <****> tyvm
04:20 <****> dngor: don't forget `clueless'
04:20 <****> Also clueless.
04:21 <****> *nod*
04:21 <****> The BEST perl webserver is using POE!
04:21 <****> i dunno
04:21 <****> And you shouldn't use anything else!
04:21 <****> I was jsut going to ask about poe
04:21 <****> lol
04:21 <****> perlbal ?
04:21 <****> DONT USE PERL USE C. ITS FASTAR
04:22 <****> jeesh
04:22 <****> c
04:22 <****> but how do I do liek dynamic pages in c
04:22 <****> cfedde: PREMATURE OPTIMMIMZIZIMATION!?!?!!!!
04:26 * CPAN upload: DateTimeX-Easy-0.060 by RKRIMEN
05:08 <****> wow
05:08 <****> That was fun.
05:08 <****> I blame comcast.
05:08 <****> i blame canada
05:10 <****> In other news, I need a new chair. :(
05:10 <****> The one I've used for the past decade or so, a crappy folding chair, is finally starting to buckle.
05:12 <****>param(); ?
05:12 <****> anyone into business or online marketing?
05:12 <****> to take the list of paramaters and their vaues into a hash.
05:13 <****>param() );
05:13 <****>param() returns?
05:16 <****> ?
05:16 <****> a special comma
05:16 <****> n3kl: it's a comma that stringifies its LHS
05:16 <****> LHS
05:16 <****> left hand side
05:19 <****> hey guys, i just started with perl and love it so far
05:19 <****> only one thing is bugging me: why do my numbers take 16 bytes of memory each?
05:20 <****> BlackHwk: your numbers aren't just numbers
05:21 <****> BlackHwk: (assuming you're using a standard perl scalar in the absense of any pragmata that would modify its behavior)
05:21 <****> When one truly groks perl, one will grok that we don't tend to mind such trifling details
05:21 <****> BlackHwk: are you doing lots of numeric computations or something?
05:21 <****> hehe, normally i wouldn't mind, but in case it means that i can't perform what i want to do with it, i mind ;)
05:22 <****> That's a bit of a bummer
05:22 <****> what can't you perform?
05:22 <****> yeah, analysis of some large text corpora, which needs 4x 10000x10000 tables potentially
05:22 <****> BlackHwk: you may want to look at PDL
05:23 <****> PDL?
05:23 <****> Perl Data Language pdl.perl.org
05:24 <****> sweet! thanks for the pointer
05:25 <****> If you've ever done any matlab, pdl is similar
05:25 <****> PerlJam: or possibly something else entirely different :)
05:25 <****> besides using PDL, would there be any way to have perl store my numbers as 4-byte floats?
05:26 <****> no
05:26 <****> you would have to use some module, PDL is the most complete approach you have available
05:27 <****> ok, thanks a lot
05:27 * BlackHwk is going to check out PDL
05:27 <****> just the ref count for the SV would take at least a byte, probably more
05:27 <****> BlackHwk: I seem to recall that there's some way to tell perl that you promise not to use your scalars as anything but a number, but I don't remember how.
05:28 <****> although having 255 references to a variable seems like a lot
05:28 <****> there's the refcount, there's also the flags
05:28 <****> well even if you ignore everything besides the ref count that would still take 5 bytes
05:29 <****> after a few days i definitely learned 1 thing: perl is not your average programming language :)
05:29 <****> but o so nice for quick and dirty programming
05:30 <****> the refcount and flags alone take up 8 bytes themselves
05:30 <****> it's also not a language for fine grained memory management
05:31 <****> It's a language for getting things done. Period.
05:31 <****> :-)
05:32 <****> perl is the language to use if you need to get something done before you get fired.
05:32 <****> I guess any language where you aren't doing the allocating and freeing the memory yourself is not so good for fine grained memory management :)
05:32 <****> cfedde: it can write resumes? :P
05:32 <****> Khisanth: it can!
05:33 <****> That's the R part!
05:33 <****> Sounds like a good module: Acme::ResumeWriter
05:33 <****> :)
05:33 <****> Your resume should be a in a complex data structure!
05:33 <****> ack! bleeding ...
05:33 <****> like yaml
05:33 <****> Diggs appreciated: http://digg.com/programming/Perl_s_new_Test_Harness_3_00_released Let's get Perl in front of more eyeballs
05:33 <****> Andy_'s url is at http://xrl.us/9i49
05:34 <****> cfedde: XML!
05:34 <****> { ... } );
05:34 <****> Khisanth: same thing.
05:35 <****> Khisanth: to me, it looked suspiciously like you summoned andy with your "ack!"
05:35 <****> hah, no.
05:35 <****> I just hit a couple of channels with that.
05:36 <****> I'm trying to get more people seeing Perl, seeing what we're doing.
05:36 <****> Andy_: kind of preaching to the choir here don't you think? :)
05:36 <****> I want the diggs
05:36 <****> so that it gets out in front of other people
05:36 <****> Professional Employment Resume Language
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