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10 November 2007
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01:44 <****> Daveman: what do you think?#
01:44 <****> err...
01:44 <****> pravus: i just found out that when i set the shared libraries to o+x it works
01:44 <****> Daveman: PORTAL
01:45 <****> Why can't I be cool like you :[
01:45 <****> buu: my coordination skillz suck
01:45 <****> xand: HE DID IT WITH A TRACK PAD THINGY.
01:45 <****> Daveman: BECAUSE YOU AREN'T UNDER BUU'S DESK!
01:45 <****> =[
01:45 * Daveman fails
01:45 <****> pravus: can setting o+r to the libraries be a security hole?
01:45 <****> no?
01:45 * xand comforts Daveman... there there
01:45 * Limbic_Region really should wait to defeat glados until after I have written the slides for my PerlMongers talk on Tuesday
01:45 <****> DaemonMad: it will allow users on the system to use the client libraries
01:45 <****> since I haven't started
01:45 <****> why would you put sensitive info in a library?
01:46 <****> :]
01:46 <****> DaemonMad: if you need that, you'll have to do it (or run everything as the oracle/root user :/)
01:46 <****> Limbic_Region: It takes like 3 minutes =]
01:46 <****> Jmax: they started doing that kind of stuff to minimize the ability to exploit bugs
01:46 <****> pravus: i wanted to give users permission to use dbi-perl modules with out being oracle/root
01:46 <****> buu - < 6 minutes anyway
01:46 <****> oh
01:47 <****> DaemonMad: then that's your answer ;)
01:47 <****> Limbic_Region: Well, less than 5 I hope.
01:47 <****> ok
01:47 <****> pravus: thanks a lot
01:47 <****> buu - I think the timer on the wall starts out with 6 minutes
01:47 <****> DaemonMad: all of our Oracle instances at work are "unprotected"
01:47 <****> Limbic_Region: Hrm.
01:48 <****> buu: do u play portal at work?
01:48 <****> in any case, I get to the last ball with plenty of time to spare
01:48 <****> but I haven't been able to catch it with the touchpad in time
01:48 <****> is it not more of a hassle to run as oracle/root just to access through dbi?
01:48 <****> initself: No, I just fantsize about it.
01:49 <****> buu: u r still at work because it is 4:52 PST and you just started your job recently.
01:49 <****> Yes.
01:49 <****> DaemonMad: the idea is that you wouldn't run clients on the database box itself. you'd install the instantclient on another machine and connect remotely.
01:49 <****> XACTLY.
01:49 <****> buu: i wish i was under ur desk.
01:49 <****> buu: i fanticize about it.
01:50 <****> when i am at work, i cannot stop eating.
01:50 <****> i basically eat whenever i make a programming mistake.
01:51 <****> how to force a installation of a CPAN module ( Image::Magick )
01:51 <****> force install Image::Magick
01:51 <****> xored: cpan -if Image::Magick
01:51 <****> but you probably don't want to do that
01:51 <****> exactly
01:51 <****> twat he said
01:51 <****> pravus: that makes sense for some situations, i guess. my situation is different.
01:51 <****> DaemonMad: i wouldn't really worry too much about it
01:51 <****> if it is failing tests or has failed dependencies, it likely won't work correctly if you force it to install itself
01:52 <****> there are of course noteable exceptions
01:52 <****> i'll document this before i forget ;)
01:53 <****> the installation fails with http://pastebin.com/mb3e153f
01:53 <****> xored: The paste mb3e153f has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/5214
01:54 <****> seem to be a bunch of errors. Why ?
01:54 <****> a version conflict, perhaps?
01:55 <****> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/toronto/biggest-bsod-of-all-time-320824.php
01:55 <****> initself's url is at http://xrl.us/9sym
01:55 <****> for DAYS.
01:55 <****> why don't all 'development' releases utilize subversion (or any other number of version control)?
01:55 <****> ya, i think they should just keep it if it has been there for days.
01:55 <****> it looks pretty.
01:56 <****> pravus: pravus i dont think it was there before..
01:56 <****> why should i have to download the newest release when I could just svn up
01:56 <****> jfluhmann_: that'd be too easy! you have to *work* for it!
01:56 <****> pravus: how could i solve this ?
01:57 <****> xored: no idea. those errors scream something being *really* wrong.
01:57 <****> pravus, ugh!
01:57 <****> xored: do you have a recent version of ImageMagick installed?
01:57 <****> pravus: i have several perl appl. running and several packages..nothing wrong there ?
01:57 <****> pravus: what is recent ? ( iam on gentoo )
01:58 <****> xored: gentoo should be installing the perl modules for you, then
01:58 <****> pravus: imagemagick ist not installed at all
01:58 <****> xored: ah ha! step 1: install imagemagick
01:58 <****> pravus: should it be installed =
01:58 <****> Poll: If you were attending a talk on "Higher Order Functions With An Introduction To Iterators", what would you like to see covered or what examples would you want to see used?
01:58 <****> xored: yes. the perl modules link against it
01:58 <****> pravus: .. why there wasn just such an error..missing imagemick..on my way..
01:59 <****> pravus: any books you would recommend for oracle administration?
01:59 <****> xored: if you install imagemagick, gentoo installs the Perl ImageMagick modules for you (iirc and if you have the perl USE flag enabled)
02:00 <****> DaemonMad: i don't really do admin. i just bounce perl against Oracle quite a bit. everything i know about Oracle is just from me tinkering.
02:00 <****> cool
02:02 <****> Poll: If you were attending a talk on "Higher Order Functions With An Introduction To Iterators", what would you like to see covered or what examples would you want to see used?
02:02 <****> sorry about that
02:02 <****> Limbic_Region: in what sense are iterators used with/by higher order functions?
02:02 <****> pravus - an iterator is a function that you call repeatedly
02:03 <****> an iterator may be a coderef
02:03 <****> pravus - that function is usually returned by a constructor factory
02:03 <****> with net::irc is there a way to add a handler that catches everything that previous handler's didn't catch?
02:03 <****>next or whatever on it
02:03 <****> With Net::IRC you should be using POE::Component::IRC.
02:04 <****> jjshoe: perhaps, but Net::IRC isn't really supported anymore
02:04 <****> fxn - have you read my article on iterators?
02:04 <****> I don't think so, I know them more or less from the past, and have read HOP
02:04 <****> fxn - http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/06/16/iterators.html
02:04 <****> fxn - but nothing in comparison to HOP
02:05 <****> Limbic_Region: good, thanks :-)
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