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26 December 2007
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--- Log opened Wed Dec 26 00:00:48 2007
00:21 <****> yay, qemu supports PXE booting
00:22 <****> nice
00:22 <****> qemu also supports core dumping on freebsd 7
00:22 <****> sadly I can get just about anything to core dump :-(
00:23 <****> Heh.
00:23 <****> the qemu source code is gnarly
00:23 <****> better a crash with a core dump than a crash without any leave behinds :)
00:24 <****> ulimit -c 0 seems to be becoming more common as a default :-(
00:24 <****> Just as linux gets things like a customisable core dump naming format and disks getting really big :-(
00:25 <****> hmmm i ll install a linux box too soon again
00:27 <****> i wonder when perl 5.10 will be in debian sid
00:27 <****> it loves the preprocessor. I wonder how anyone manages to hack on it *sigh*
00:27 <****> just before The Hurd will be released.
00:27 <****> well, it's in experimental
00:27 <****> wolverian: uh, is it really?
00:27 <****> There was a new Debian Hurd CD image recently
00:27 <****> cool
00:27 <****> yes
00:28 <****> The Hurd 1.0 may be released next year! :)
00:28 <****> cool. I'm surprised it isn't breaking more people's code. Quite good really
00:28 <****> pbuetow: declaring the hurd 1.0 won't suddenly make it's quality jump :-(
00:28 <****> will it run Duke Nukem 3D?
00:28 <****> i m joking ;)
00:29 <****> 2GB
00:29 <****> oh yay, it uses setjmp too.
00:30 <****> hello
00:30 <****> hi ShadeS
00:30 <****> I have a nub question... I'm looking for the module that will help me communicate with my com5 port on windows.. does anyone happen to know the name of the module I'm looking for? 8 )
00:30 <****> a what question?
00:31 <****> Device::SerialPortg
00:31 <****> 'nub' is a function that removes duplicates from a list
00:31 <****> *sigh* mispelled. Devise::CerealPorte
00:31 <****> integral, ah that's the thing
00:31 <****> i'm using a usb 2 serial converter
00:31 <****> so I can communicate with this r3223?? port?
00:31 <****> so this is where it gets a bit hairy for me
00:31 <****> Death to multi-port serial cards! The end of tentacled monstrosities!
00:32 <****> ShadeS: yes, Device::SerialPort is for talking to rs232 serial ports and probably other stuff that looks like one
00:32 <****> integral, yea unless you need to communicate to a cisco router via a console port ;(
00:32 <****> cool thanks
00:32 <****> snmpset + lots of bash. It's the future.
00:33 <****> Hmm Device-SerialPort Linux/POSIX emulation of Win32::SerialPort functions.. does this sound like what i'm looking for?
00:33 <****> well for the time being i have to do this from windows ;(
00:33 <****> oh, sounds like you want Win32::SerialPort
00:34 <****> (or Win32s::CerealFortifiedWine)
00:34 <****> well I'm not sure what I want lol
00:34 <****> use *;
00:34 <****> hey! you look like that guy from last night
00:34 <****> I typed in Device::Serialport into this search.cpan.org and the first hit was this win32::serialprot
00:34 <****> sounds a bit like him too
00:34 <****>
00:34 <****> Yes it is me
00:34 <****> I"m not feeling nearly as ill though
00:35 <****> my nose works
00:35 <****> yay
00:35 <****> don't Ciscos have ssh or TELNET?
00:35 <****> ciscos have telnet or serial console for sure
00:35 <****> YES *but* initially they *must* be configured w/ a console cable
00:35 <****> ssh i dont know
00:35 <****> they won't do something useful like netboot? :-(
00:35 <****> and the configs i'm loading are changing things pertaning to ssh and telnet so I won't be able to use those not only on basis of ip change but credential change as well
00:35 <****> ASS
00:35 <****> AHS even
00:37 <****> darn, qemu's SMP support uses round-robin not pthreads
00:38 <****> search.cpan.org/~cook/Device-SerialPort-1.04/SerialPort.pm looks promising
00:38 <****> lets hope it is what i'm looking for
00:39 <****> that Win32::OLE gave a *great* example on manipulating an .xls file
00:39 <****> hopefully this SerialPort deal will give me enough code so I can modify it for my own needs
00:39 <****> as it's still eaiser to modify code than to write it on my own when it comes to perl
00:39 * integral notes that if Device::SerialPort is meant to emulate Win32::SerialPort on non-win32, then on win32, you'd want Win32::SerialPort not Device::SerialPort
00:40 <****> oh
00:40 <****> ah the *wonderful* world of win32 apis
00:40 <****>
00:41 <****> better designed than half the unix crap.
00:41 <****> And you don't have to play the portability game.
00:41 <****> haha
00:44 <****> ew73: You alive?
00:44 <****> bpalmer`: You alive?
00:54 <****> Hi, PHP sucks
00:54 <****> Can be PERL/CGI used instead of PHP for the parsing and generating XML via DOM?
00:54 <****> no
00:55 <****> oh ;-/
00:55 <****> OF COURSE IT CAN
00:55 <****> yath: really?
00:55 <****> no, not really.
00:55 <****> i'm just kidding.
00:55 <****> Perl sucks even more, then
00:57 <****> Is there anybody coding a new language with the power of C which can be used (not only) for the server-side part of the application? I need one and I'm missing it
00:57 <****> any turing complete one.
00:57 <****> like, say, brainfuck.
00:57 <****> oh, missed the "coding" part. sorry.
00:57 <****> brainfuck is a toy, it ain't the power of C
00:57 <****> didn't think that languages have to be "coded".
00:57 <****> FReeZ: meow
00:58 <****> pkrumins: purr =^_^=
00:58 <****> I mean the compiler / interpreter have to be coded, aight?
00:58 <****> that's not a requirement for a language, but it's useful indeed.
01:00 <****> This conversation is terrible.
01:00 <****> The parsing is a piece of cake, the syntax must be C-like (it's the only working one) and it have to be able to use the C libraries like libexpat, ncurses, curl, etc. The requirements are not big, ok?
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