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11 October 2007
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--- Log opened Thu Oct 11 00:00:07 2007
00:00 <****> garotosopa, thanks alot
00:00 <****> _sonic, not exactly. but if you're suspecting file_get_contents() is caching, I'd say it's most likely not the case.
00:02 <****> btw garotosopa where can i download HTML_QuickForm?
00:03 <****> LinuxMafia, http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_QuickForm
00:03 <****> garotosopa, thanks so much
00:03 <****> LinuxMafia, you'd better see its documentation first and get used to PEAR packages
00:03 <****> garotosopa, sure i am reading them already
00:03 <****> thanks alot
00:04 <****> is there a way to number the lines when viewing source in ff?
00:06 <****> OMG, I am writing a user authentication system, So I need for this one to be really secure, and at some level im scared of it, So looked around for more tips, and found nothing but password hashing, and validation inputs, Any advice from you guys?
00:06 <****> garotosopa: may I pm you?
00:06 <****> _sonic, sure.
00:07 <****> Alloos1: Password hashing! Password Hashing! Password Hashing. There should be no need for a user to "retrieve" a password. The only reason you might not want to hash passwords is communicating with some external source, like another server.
00:09 <****> AlReece45: I do not want to communicate with external pages, and I already write a function to hash the password in my special way so I think its secure when it comes to that, any other advice about the process it self?
00:09 <****> Has anyone had fake charges from "TM NETGAMES" and "MTC TOUCH LB" on their debit cards in mid september?
00:10 <****> is there any function to get the first array?
00:10 <****> Alloos1: https and mysql password()
00:10 <****> add ssl keys to that if youre paranoid
00:11 <****> deebo: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/encryption-functions.html#function_password
00:11 <****> deebo: yes Iam paranoid about this script than any other thing I ever done, so I will be using ssl, anything else?
00:11 <****> deebo: "The PASSWORD() function is used by the authentication system in MySQL Server; you should not use it in your own applications."
00:12 <****> :)
00:12 <****> "should not" != "do not" :)
00:12 <****> anyone know whether BlueFish is able to pair up Curly Braces with highlighting? I have loads and I am struggling which one's pair up with what
00:13 <****> basically plaintext storing is fine if the rest of the system is secure and you dont send the password in plaintext (ie without https)
00:13 <****> if someone really wants the passwords theres nothing short of pulling the plug you can do really :P
00:13 <****> deebo: If a computer is on, it isn't secure ;P
00:13 <****> look at some bigger software solutions for tips
00:14 <****> spend more time ironing out XSS and sql injections
00:14 <****> is it possible to see how many people are connected to the apache server and using php parsing?
00:14 <****> hello
00:15 <****> can someone tell me how to include php file with vars? i need to include file.php?a=XX&b=YY
00:16 <****> if (XX==something) include 'something.php'
00:16 <****> Is there a test framework for PHP akin to perl's 'make test'? Something that isn't going to require an end user to install anything third-party ?
00:16 <****> a==something even :)
00:16 <****> deebo that's for me?
00:16 <****> yes
00:16 <****> no i don't need that
00:17 <****> i need something like include('file.php?a=XX&b=YY');
00:17 <****> but i need functions which works ;)
00:17 <****> [M4rk0], $_GET['a'] = 'XX'; include 'file.php';
00:17 <****> that seems like really bad code if you do that :P but thats just me
00:18 <****> i hate php anyway
00:18 <****> can't you set the variables before the include and just call it?
00:18 <****> I agree that it should not be used.
00:19 <****> or include files loads on a new namespace?
00:19 <****> now, it's the same scope.
00:19 <****> no*
00:19 <****> so, it should work like that... no need to pass variables to the include file
00:19 * AlReece45 wishes he could use include load files into new namespaces in php
00:20 <****> s/include load/include to load/
00:21 <****> sounds to me your application isnt thought out should you need to do that
00:21 <****> when you're using classes you'd probably not care.
00:23 <****> garotosopa, Thanx!
00:26 <****> quiet tonight
00:27 <****> damn didnt see sara was here
00:27 <****> pohhh
00:27 <****> Then let me try re-asking:
00:27 <****> Is there a test framework for PHP akin to perl's 'make test'? Something that isn't going to require an end user to install anything third-party ?
00:27 <****> haptiK : shes busy at zendcon
00:27 <****> conning it up
00:27 <****> fair enuff
00:27 <****> the wireless here is stup wrong, so you cant roam from room to room
00:28 <****> woosta im not familiar with anything perl
00:28 <****> any more
00:28 <****> That isn't the question though ..
00:28 <****> there is phpunit but im not sure if thats relative
00:29 <****> I'm looking for a unit testing framework that comes with PHP and doesn't require any third-party downloads
00:29 <****> Is there a way to do a foreach, backwards?
00:29 <****> woosta use phpunit
00:29 <****> *doesn't require any third-party downloads*
00:29 <****> Solifugus: array_reverse maybe i dunno.. weird question
00:29 <****> Solifugus, foreach(array_reverse($array) as $v) heheh :P
00:30 <****> woosta know
00:30 <****> omg
00:30 <****> I'm looking for something that people who use my library can use to test my library before they install it
00:30 <****> s/know/no
00:30 <****> Mmm
00:30 <****> You'd think with over 3000 core function someone would have thought to add testing asertions
00:31 <****> well if your so smart write it yourself
00:32 <****> im trying to buy a car. what do you guys think is better, 08 Altima or 08 Scion Xb ?
00:32 <****> which ever makes your penis larger
00:32 <****> i know its so OT, but i have no one to ask :X
00:32 <****> dont be stupid
00:33 <****> ok
00:33 <****> which ever makes your penis larger
00:33 <****> if someone says they have a new 'co-project'.. Does that mean its a new project they're working on with someone else?
00:33 <****> co means cooperative
00:33 <****> so yes
00:33 <****> sweet. thanks.
00:34 <****> haptiK: you and i think alike
00:34 <****> thats amazing
00:34 <****> write that down for me so i can crumple it up and throw it in the bin
00:35 <****> just teasing :)
00:35 <****> hello
00:35 <****> ahh I see you are a quite the happy person :P
00:35 <****> i am
00:35 <****> can i use htmlspecialchars with mysql_real_escape_string
00:35 <****> sarcasm my friend :)
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